Ask HN: High paid job with low accountability?

As a senior marketer who was up last night till after midnight analyzing view-through attribution data for our display efforts, I really resent that.

You may not clearly understand what goes into marketing, but just as there are good and bad people in any field, a good marketer actually does quite a bit of work. In most cases, marketing is one of the most visibly measurable functions in a company and unless the company is growing itself because it is a one-in-a-million hit, marketers have their hands full and rarely have enough resources.

Drop the stigma against marketing already--it's getting pretty old.

Off topic, but now have you secured a 100k job at 25?

A company that makes use of tech but is not a tech company. The problem is finding one that treats its employees well... basically I found myself in the position you describe. I stuck around for years but ultimately decided it was not good for my career long-term. On the other hand, I was pulling right around $100k, working from home, realistically putting in 2-3 hour days most days. I went entire weeks without doing any actual work beside sending a couple emails, if that. But it didn't feel cool, like I was getting one over. It made me feel like shit.

If you find something like this you absolutely must supplement it with lots of self-directed learning or you'll stagnate and be totally stuck.

Our sales VP once called this - dig yourself a hole and sit there for 10 years.

If by 'low accountability' you mean - don't do much work - it definitely exists and is all over corp IT shops. I would separate out the technical positions from the management positions.

A manager usually doesn't do much real work, they have a team to do the work, but does often bear the responsibility to higher up mgmt, and will get canned when things go bad.

A dev works very hard, but once you become an expert after years of specialization in say a particular language for framework, you can coast because it takes you 30 minutes what a junior person may struggle with all day.

I've met all kinds of devs who are very sharp, they make over 100k and they don't "work hard" at all.

Line coder at a huge company (such as Oracle). You can't make many major changes without going through bureaucracy, and you don't have the leverage to even begin to navigate the bureaucracy. Do what you're told, and reap the benefits of decent monetary compensation and golden health/retirement benefits (AKA really good 401k matching).