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Google Employees Secretly Live on Campus to Avoid Paying Rent

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Re: Google Employees Secretly Live on Campus to Avoid Paying Rent

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Does anyone else feels like we're really getting towards the cyberpunk universe ? with corporations that completely own the life of their employees by providing them with everything, and a violent lawless and miserable outside world. And as always, it all started with the best intentions.

Reminds me of a book I read sometime back, where Employees lived on campuses, ate bio designed meat, produced bio engineered pets, products that enhanced artificial sense of well being while a biological catastrophe engulfed the outside world (mostly because of bio engineered products that these companies produced). I can't see to recall the name of the book though. Soon enough we will be getting there though.

Sounds like the plot of Oryx and Crake (I did not like the book, but it was an interesting plot):

https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/46756.Oryx_and_Crake

Re: Google Employees Secretly Live on Campus to Avoid Paying Rent

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This is the paradox. You can phrase it as a question: Why don't blubsoft or blub.ly open offices in city X and continue to pay the same salaries there . Relocated employees would be richer and blub.ly should have an easier time hiring. Obvious'y this doesn't happen even though a simple common sense "story" suggests that it should. Hence unintuitive. I'm not saying that individuals don't have their reasons for doing w…

A possible answer is that they often do. And those companies that do relocate discover that they can pay less, and book the difference.

Obviously there are examples of companies and individuals doing all sorts of things. But there is still a huge spread in cost of living between places. The reasons for that spread existing are diminishing. Meanwhile, the spread is growing, not shrinking.

Re: Google Employees Secretly Live on Campus to Avoid Paying Rent

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Isn't a huge part of the housing issue in SV the zoning? I recall reading about how large swathes of land have been zoned away from residential, largely because of the influence of the wealthy who live in and near the area. Never underestimate the politics!

And that is the paradox. In order to make cheap housing you'd have to destroy all the open space and low density zoning that made all the tech and VC people want to live here in the first place. Besides the current economy isn't permanent at all. The tech bubble will bust and this will all go back to normal in a few years. People who are living here for the long haul, and not just for the gold rush don't want it to g…

Good luck waiting out the gold rush, it's been a part of the California way of life for more than a hundred and fifty years.

Re: Google Employees Secretly Live on Campus to Avoid Paying Rent

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I did this on a 6 month contract as an experiment over a mild winter in the UK in 2011. You can pretty much do this anywhere. Couple of tricks: 1) Get a small camper/van that can park in one car parking space with a diesel heating system. Kitchen is irrelevant. Bed/toilet/heating system/space to sit and type/space for clothes to hang. 2) You need a toilet but usually you time your bowel movements to only need to use…

This seems tempting. But i can't live without gaming on a big screen :(

Are you sure about that? :)

Re: Google Employees Secretly Live on Campus to Avoid Paying Rent

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Rent in central cities is one of the unintuitive outcomes of the modern economy. SV might be an extreme example, but it isn't the only one. The world is far more globalized. People work with clients, customers, and coworkers mostly through the internet, even if they are in the same building or city. Google's a good example. They have offices all over. They have clients everywhere. Common sense would dictate that empl…

There's a great book exploring this: The New Geography of Jobs http://www.amazon.com/The-Geography-Jobs-Enrico-Moretti/dp/0... He talks about why things have not gone 'flat'.

Care to do a spoiler?

Does he have an interesting reason why not?

Re: Google Employees Secretly Live on Campus to Avoid Paying Rent

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We had a contractor in Xbox who was let go. They snuck back into the building and lived there for a number of weeks (not sure how many), pretending to work and hanging out in our various couch areas during the day. [Someone quipped: "Not much different than certain full-time employees."] I've known a few people who lived in vans / RVs in the company parking lots. (Ironically, the guy whose van had the ATARI vanity li…

Did you just imply that you worked at Atari in the early 80s and also on the Xbox? cool!

You can click on a username to view someone's profile:

https://news.ycombinator.com/user?id=kabdib

Re: Google Employees Secretly Live on Campus to Avoid Paying Rent

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This. Currently all my stuff fits into two backpacks (a big backpacker one and a small one for the laptop). The only thing I miss from my old stationary lifestyle is a regular gym, sparring partners and a coach. The only thing I don't understand about living in the googleplex is sex. Logistics is everything - I remember once dealing with a month of involuntary celibacy due to a bad living situation. NOT an experience…

Serious question I have always wanted to ask someone like you: How many changes of clothes do you own? I don't have an extensive wardrobe, but I couldn't fit the clothes I wear in an average week into a bag of that size, let alone everything else I use regularly.

I have 4 pants, maybe 4-5 pairs of shorts, 6 button down shirts, and 15 t-shirts. On my most recent flight from India, I even managed to fit a suit in.

Let me emphasize that the larger backpack is not carry-on luggage. It's a $200 fancy pack, something like this: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00388W5KO/ref=as_li_tl?ie=...

Re: Google Employees Secretly Live on Campus to Avoid Paying Rent

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post #9

Does anyone else feels like we're really getting towards the cyberpunk universe ? with corporations that completely own the life of their employees by providing them with everything, and a violent lawless and miserable outside world. And as always, it all started with the best intentions.

Reminds me of a book I read sometime back, where Employees lived on campuses, ate bio designed meat, produced bio engineered pets, products that enhanced artificial sense of well being while a biological catastrophe engulfed the outside world (mostly because of bio engineered products that these companies produced). I can't see to recall the name of the book though. Soon enough we will be getting there though.

Oryx and Crake?

Re: Google Employees Secretly Live on Campus to Avoid Paying Rent

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post #73

I did this on a 6 month contract as an experiment over a mild winter in the UK in 2011. You can pretty much do this anywhere. Couple of tricks: 1) Get a small camper/van that can park in one car parking space with a diesel heating system. Kitchen is irrelevant. Bed/toilet/heating system/space to sit and type/space for clothes to hang. 2) You need a toilet but usually you time your bowel movements to only need to use…

For 16, does this mean that you can't ordinarily sleep in the back of the van, but they allow it if drunk to discourage drunk driving, or that you're not considered to be drinking and driving if you stay in the back? I'm just amused at the idea of keeping a bottle of around for emergency legal compliance.

In some places (including much of the US, I believe), you can be arrested for drunk driving even if you're not in the driver's seat. Here's some info on California's laws [1].

The idea is that you are in the car and capable of driving it, even if you're not in the driver's seat yet. According to the urban legend, the trick is to get rid of your keys if you need to sleep in the car while drunk (i.e., swap keys with a friend who's in a different car), since you can then argue that you did not have the ability to drive the car.

[1] http://www.rencherlawgroup.com/Practice-Areas/DUI-Defense/Pa...

Re: Google Employees Secretly Live on Campus to Avoid Paying Rent

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

There's a great book exploring this: The New Geography of Jobs http://www.amazon.com/The-Geography-Jobs-Enrico-Moretti/dp/0... He talks about why things have not gone 'flat'.

Care to do a spoiler? Does he have an interesting reason why not?

Because proximity to other people still matters a lot, especially in terms of "cross-pollination", in the sense of more random interactions than you might get if you just hired a few people to work remotely on a specific project. You could even call it an 'ecosystem' despite the word's abuse.

It's been a while since I read it, but I didn't think it was all that revolutionary... it just mostly made sense.

http://davids-book-reviews.blogspot.it/2012/10/the-new-geogr...

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