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Google Employees Secretly Live on Campus to Avoid Paying Rent

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Re: Google Employees Secretly Live on Campus to Avoid Paying Rent

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Can't Google just setup dormitories? It's halfway on being it's own city, so why not go all out and have cheap living quarters?

If you've been following local news, the local city council hasn't been enthusiastic to let them do it:

http://sf.streetsblog.org/2014/09/08/mountain-view-city-cand...

Re: Google Employees Secretly Live on Campus to Avoid Paying Rent

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Moscow University main building has cafes, shops, dormitories and even a barber's shop. I've heard rumors that some students spent months without leaving the building. On campus this should be even easier, come on.

At MIT, it's a badge of honor how many days you spend during finals living in the library, studying all day, every day. Students literally move into the library and live there. There was even a student that secretly built his own dorm room in the steam tunnels. It's on the unofficial tour as the "Tomb of the Unknown Tool".

Re: Google Employees Secretly Live on Campus to Avoid Paying Rent

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Rent in central cities is one of the unintuitive outcomes of the modern economy. SV might be an extreme example, but it isn't the only one. The world is far more globalized. People work with clients, customers, and coworkers mostly through the internet, even if they are in the same building or city. Google's a good example. They have offices all over. They have clients everywhere. Common sense would dictate that empl…

The cities where a $140k salary exist in the same quantity as in the bay area are roughly equivalent with respect to the cost to live there. A job in SF that pays $140k might fetch $60-$90k in most of the rest of the US, with higher salaries being more rare. So while there are lots of places where $140k is practically king-like, the number of positions with that salary are both hotly competed for and far fewer in num…

This is the paradox. You can phrase it as a question: Why don't blubsoft or blub.ly open offices in city X and continue to pay the same salaries there. Relocated employees would be richer and blub.ly should have an easier time hiring.

Obvious'y this doesn't happen even though a simple common sense "story" suggests that it should. Hence unintuitive.

I'm not saying that individuals don't have their reasons for doing what they do, that's not the interesting part. It's interesting that we don't see digitization and globalization take the pressure off high rent areas and encourage a migration of firms and employees to lower rent (for equivalent of better quality of life) areas at a systemic level.

Re: Google Employees Secretly Live on Campus to Avoid Paying Rent

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I did this on a 6 month contract as an experiment over a mild winter in the UK in 2011. You can pretty much do this anywhere. Couple of tricks: 1) Get a small camper/van that can park in one car parking space with a diesel heating system. Kitchen is irrelevant. Bed/toilet/heating system/space to sit and type/space for clothes to hang. 2) You need a toilet but usually you time your bowel movements to only need to use…

I was of the impression that in the UK sleeping in the back of your car when drunk could still lead to a charge of "drunk in charge of a vehicle". Could you elaborate on why it's different with a van, please?

Re: Google Employees Secretly Live on Campus to Avoid Paying Rent

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People on cargo ships or oil rigs still usually have regular homes that they live in when they are not working which is often for weeks or months at a time. Google uses it's employees year round. I wonder if this might be a good solution for the software industry to avoid burnout. Have people live in SV for designated "crunch" periods where you work for 70 hours a week for 2 months, then go home to somewhere cheaper…

You couldn't pay me enough to work 8 back-to-back 70-hour weeks.

I on the other hand would love that. I can't see it working for my job, but from a personal time point of view I'd love it. Everyone's difference.

Re: Google Employees Secretly Live on Campus to Avoid Paying Rent

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Tech folks tend to live in their heads. Houses, etc, is just boring distractions.

This. Currently all my stuff fits into two backpacks (a big backpacker one and a small one for the laptop). The only thing I miss from my old stationary lifestyle is a regular gym, sparring partners and a coach. The only thing I don't understand about living in the googleplex is sex. Logistics is everything - I remember once dealing with a month of involuntary celibacy due to a bad living situation. NOT an experience…

More likely: much worse game and they don't bother trying to succeed. Dating while working at Google sucks.

Re: Google Employees Secretly Live on Campus to Avoid Paying Rent

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post #104

We had a contractor in Xbox who was let go. They snuck back into the building and lived there for a number of weeks (not sure how many), pretending to work and hanging out in our various couch areas during the day. [Someone quipped: "Not much different than certain full-time employees."] I've known a few people who lived in vans / RVs in the company parking lots. (Ironically, the guy whose van had the ATARI vanity li…

Did you just imply that you worked at Atari in the early 80s and also on the Xbox?

cool!

Re: Google Employees Secretly Live on Campus to Avoid Paying Rent

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Does anyone else feels like we're really getting towards the cyberpunk universe ? with corporations that completely own the life of their employees by providing them with everything, and a violent lawless and miserable outside world. And as always, it all started with the best intentions.

Yeah, I have that fear too. But more with the recent "sharing" movement.

People talk about sharing and stopping to own stuff you don't need. Which is probably a good idea, if one person owns a car and 10 use it when they need it.

But it stops when companies are in play. When they end up owning everything, we're all in trouble.

Re: Google Employees Secretly Live on Campus to Avoid Paying Rent

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Silicon Valley: Where highly paid ($100-$200k+) engineers sleep in cars to save money on obscenely expensive rent. Honestly, recently moving to Seattle has been refreshing to me in this regard. I find Seattle tech industry pay no less than SF, plus no state income tax, and for the same rent as SF you can practically live like a king/queen here. I wonder how long the housing situation in SV can keep up until everythin…

It's weird. There has always been some water-cooler talk among the engineers about how it would be possible to live on campus. But these journalists actually found people who've done it. And they're engineers; most of our speculation focused on interns.

Back in '98 was my first visit to the valley, and I had dinner with a tech writer from Netscape. She told me about an engineer that had just been fired after they'd found he lived in the office. I think you'll every now and again find the odd case at many larger companies; especially companies that offers amenities that makes it easy, and campuses large enough that it becomes easy to avoid standing out too much.

Re: Google Employees Secretly Live on Campus to Avoid Paying Rent

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Tech folks tend to live in their heads. Houses, etc, is just boring distractions.

This. Currently all my stuff fits into two backpacks (a big backpacker one and a small one for the laptop). The only thing I miss from my old stationary lifestyle is a regular gym, sparring partners and a coach. The only thing I don't understand about living in the googleplex is sex. Logistics is everything - I remember once dealing with a month of involuntary celibacy due to a bad living situation. NOT an experience…

A whole month without sex? How awful!
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