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Google Employees Secretly Live on Campus to Avoid Paying Rent

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Re: Google Employees Secretly Live on Campus to Avoid Paying Rent

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Silicon Valley: Where highly paid ($100-$200k+) engineers sleep in cars to save money on obscenely expensive rent. Honestly, recently moving to Seattle has been refreshing to me in this regard. I find Seattle tech industry pay no less than SF, plus no state income tax, and for the same rent as SF you can practically live like a king/queen here. I wonder how long the housing situation in SV can keep up until everythin…

> I find Seattle tech industry pay no less than SF

The census arrived at a different conclusion.

edit: Engineering talent at AmaGooBookSoft are sometimes given pay in Seattle that is comparable to SF, however.

Re: Google Employees Secretly Live on Campus to Avoid Paying Rent

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I did this on a 6 month contract as an experiment over a mild winter in the UK in 2011. You can pretty much do this anywhere. Couple of tricks: 1) Get a small camper/van that can park in one car parking space with a diesel heating system. Kitchen is irrelevant. Bed/toilet/heating system/space to sit and type/space for clothes to hang. 2) You need a toilet but usually you time your bowel movements to only need to use…

So you only did this as an experiment? If it was a forced thing, do you think it would be any different? Also, this could be amazing to go camping or short vacations with friends. Thanks!

Well, I'd bought a camper van in the summer, and a contract came up too far away to realistically commute. So I could have stayed in a B&B during the week, however I felt that this would work out. My wife was not quite in love with the idea of the camper van as much as I was. It would save a lot of money which we needed at the time.

So I went down there in September for a 3 month contract that got extended by another 3 months.

The most complicated issue was that the Webasto diesel heating system (2kw heater and amazinf) required leisure batteries to be at a certain level to work safely and would shut down. So I started off with an 80w battery by the middle of December I had added another two 110w batteries and bought a industrial strength battery charger to enable me to top the batteries up within a 24 hour period.

If I was living in the van permanently I would have mounted two 250w solar panels on the roof. Complete independence would have been worth it.

One thing, having a home base also gave me a place to empty the chemical loo.

Of note, it completely changed my view of sealed sachets of ketchup and coffee. As you are in a box, you can build up a lot of moisture during the night (easy to remove during the day) but just means windows are dripping or even frozen with moisture.

I can remember firing up the heater and directing the heat into the driver cabin via a funnel to help melt the ice that had formed over night on the inside of the screen, leaving the van and going for a walk along the beach while it cleared itself.

Re: Google Employees Secretly Live on Campus to Avoid Paying Rent

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post #73

I did this on a 6 month contract as an experiment over a mild winter in the UK in 2011. You can pretty much do this anywhere. Couple of tricks: 1) Get a small camper/van that can park in one car parking space with a diesel heating system. Kitchen is irrelevant. Bed/toilet/heating system/space to sit and type/space for clothes to hang. 2) You need a toilet but usually you time your bowel movements to only need to use…

1/ or you know,just find a housemate/roommate if you cant afford to rent a place alone... sorry but sleeping in a van doesnt "scale",and is not that economic. EDIT:the downvote mob is out for blood,as usual.I just said that sleeping in a van for 6 month is the worse thing to do,nobody can to tell me with a straight face that one should do that,especially in winter.

If sleeping in a van wasn't all that economic and finding a housemate was so simple for everyone in every situation then we wouldn't have homeless people.

Re: Google Employees Secretly Live on Campus to Avoid Paying Rent

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We had a contractor in Xbox who was let go. They snuck back into the building and lived there for a number of weeks (not sure how many), pretending to work and hanging out in our various couch areas during the day. [Someone quipped: "Not much different than certain full-time employees."]

I've known a few people who lived in vans / RVs in the company parking lots. (Ironically, the guy whose van had the ATARI vanity license plate was one of the first to be let go in the crash of 1982).

A friend of mine lives in the Sierra mountains, and used to RV down to Silly Valley for a week or two at a time. Really pretty convenient. Once he was parked underneath the flight path for Moffet Field around the time that Air Force One was scheduled to fly in, and the Secret Service politely asked him to move his RV.

Re: Google Employees Secretly Live on Campus to Avoid Paying Rent

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post #73

I did this on a 6 month contract as an experiment over a mild winter in the UK in 2011. You can pretty much do this anywhere. Couple of tricks: 1) Get a small camper/van that can park in one car parking space with a diesel heating system. Kitchen is irrelevant. Bed/toilet/heating system/space to sit and type/space for clothes to hang. 2) You need a toilet but usually you time your bowel movements to only need to use…

I love that social groups are critical and so it seems that swimming and saunas, but when taking a piss, or having a kitchen are ``irrelevant'' topics.

Well technically your clothes are hanging up in the space your are cooking in. You don't really need to be known as "Mr. Bacon".

Toilet is critical. You will need it (knew a friend that decided to not install one and rely on public loos while staying at a ski resort...lasted two weeks.) It's just that you don't want to take a dump unless you absolutely need to. This is less to do with then, but more when you need to 'empty' the waste. You will be peeing and you can either do that in a lay by, but with snow on the ground and 3 in the morning....then somewhere to pee in the van that also can be 'sealed' to contain the smell is critical.

Re: Google Employees Secretly Live on Campus to Avoid Paying Rent

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Can't Google just setup dormitories? It's halfway on being it's own city, so why not go all out and have cheap living quarters?

Or they could just move out of the polically dysfunctional SF-bay area. Seriously, why do so many companies put up with the broken real-estate market and government that completely fails to manage it?

The comments here that express positive sentiment toward Company Towns ought to be a clue. There is a large supply of qualified people willing to subject themselves to such conditions here--much larger than these companies will find practically anywhere else. It boils down to this: the environment is extremely advantageous for the very wealthy.

Re: Google Employees Secretly Live on Campus to Avoid Paying Rent

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post #73

I did this on a 6 month contract as an experiment over a mild winter in the UK in 2011. You can pretty much do this anywhere. Couple of tricks: 1) Get a small camper/van that can park in one car parking space with a diesel heating system. Kitchen is irrelevant. Bed/toilet/heating system/space to sit and type/space for clothes to hang. 2) You need a toilet but usually you time your bowel movements to only need to use…

I love that social groups are critical and so it seems that swimming and saunas, but when taking a piss, or having a kitchen are ``irrelevant'' topics.

As someone else who lived like this for a few months (except out of the back of a much smaller Land Rover Series III), pissing is done in hedges (and the odd beer can), shitting in public toilets or food restaurants and cooking on a gas bottle outside.

Mine looked like this: http://www.carandclassic.co.uk/uploads/cars/land_rover/30328...

Going for swim acts as an opportunity for showering.

It's great fun after you get over the initial shock of creature comforts requiring planning and thought.

I eventualy gave in I found that the chassis had a huge hole in it and I had to start putting in as much oil as fuel.

Re: Google Employees Secretly Live on Campus to Avoid Paying Rent

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post #73

I did this on a 6 month contract as an experiment over a mild winter in the UK in 2011. You can pretty much do this anywhere. Couple of tricks: 1) Get a small camper/van that can park in one car parking space with a diesel heating system. Kitchen is irrelevant. Bed/toilet/heating system/space to sit and type/space for clothes to hang. 2) You need a toilet but usually you time your bowel movements to only need to use…

1/ or you know,just find a housemate/roommate if you cant afford to rent a place alone... sorry but sleeping in a van doesnt "scale",and is not that economic. EDIT:the downvote mob is out for blood,as usual.I just said that sleeping in a van for 6 month is the worse thing to do,nobody can to tell me with a straight face that one should do that,especially in winter.

I used it as a way to explore Exeter, Devon and the surrounding coast. It was fun. One hell of an experiment and life hack.

Would definitely do it again, but I would probably build my own van rather than buy off the shelf as I have that luxury to do that.

Note old camper vans can be realistically be bought for around £2k and they don't lose money. I sold mine for more than I bought it, but that covered the cost of the batteries I had installed.

Re: Google Employees Secretly Live on Campus to Avoid Paying Rent

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maybe change the link to the quora thread? The article adds literally nothing. http://www.quora.com/Which-Googler-holds-the-record-for-livi...

Put ?share=1 on the end of the link to get past the nag-wall: http://www.quora.com/Which-Googler-holds-the-record-for-livi...

Any query string works. So, "?s=1" or "?x=1" for instance. If you're feeling lazy.
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