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The Satoshi Nakamoto SourceForge account has been hacked

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Re: The Satoshi Nakamoto SourceForge account has been hacked

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Post by berberous »

verroq wrote: post #92
3rd3 wrote: post #75

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That guy did a really bad job of blacking out sensitive information. It probably nails the receiver down to only a couple of hundred people.

With a bit of levels adjustment and http://i.imgur.com/y0Ee8cl.png We're being lied to. This is fake. The street address doesn't match the post code. My assessment: The hacker created the order himself, with fake ID, fake address and doctored the timestamp.

The hacker probably thought it was real. That website lets you pay cash (locally in China). You can enter any name/address/email/phone number you want, there is zero validation, and you can submit as 'cash', so no payment required at that time. You will get a confirmation e-mail like Satoshi did. So someone was probably just messing around and submitted a fake order in 2013, for whatever reason.

Re: The Satoshi Nakamoto SourceForge account has been hacked

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Post by ZoF »

misiti3780 wrote: post #80
vezzy-fnord wrote: post #62

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If the Tor leak thing is true, this could add to the evidence for the common speculation that Satoshi is a collective pseudonym.

how so?

I think the implication he is trying to make is this:

If it was a collective of people it is(might be) more likely that one of them is incompetent(and didn't configure TOR properly) where-as if it was a single competent/careful individual there's a smaller chance of a TOR mis-configuration and resulting IP-address leak.

I don't think it lends much credence to the 'multiple entities' theory at all personally, but that's the best I could come up with. Feel free to correct.

Re: The Satoshi Nakamoto SourceForge account has been hacked

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Post by joshfraser »

jacquesm wrote: post #60
nly wrote: post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> But if you have a billion dollars of gold in your basement, you should be very, very paranoid. At close to 25 tonnes, and ~1.3m³, I'd like to see the engineering behind such a heist

Kill occupants of building, move 1.3 cubic meters of gold in 30 trips with transport van. Now you have a few other problems, such as making sure that you're not going to end up in the same way. Besides surveillance cam footage recording your whereabout during part of your trip and the distance being fairly easily estimated if you do two trips in quick succession leading to a possible ID and or location of the stash.…

Procuring a "slightly larger truck" should be trivial given the value of the heist.

Re: The Satoshi Nakamoto SourceForge account has been hacked

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Post by jonalmeida »

One of the comments on the Wired post[1] shows that the email from CardReaderFactory is a hoax: you can see the person's name using the Levels tool in Photoshop.

Confirmed with Photoshop myself using the imgur image links I got from this HN post.

[1]: http://www.wired.com/2014/09/satoshi/#comment-1580438754

Re: The Satoshi Nakamoto SourceForge account has been hacked

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Post by smm2000 »

nly wrote: post #49
nostromo wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you have a few thousand dollars of gold in your house, you shouldn't worry too much. But if you have a billion dollars of gold in your basement, you should be very, very paranoid. Even with perfect security, you'd still be a ransom target.

> But if you have a billion dollars of gold in your basement, you should be very, very paranoid. At close to 25 tonnes, and ~1.3m³, I'd like to see the engineering behind such a heist

25 tonnes is not much... Five people can load it on two trucks in a few hours even without using any machinery.

Re: The Satoshi Nakamoto SourceForge account has been hacked

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Post by austinheap »

If you take the screenshot showing the leaked e-mail from an order 'he' placed at CardReaderFactory, you get an interesting data point:

- You can lookup orders tied to the e-mail address shatoshin@gmx.de - You cannot lookup order tied to gibberish accounts, like odn2n489n4@gmail.com

Proof: http://imgur.com/a/22z72

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Post by aidenn0 »

jfoutz wrote: post #115
peteretep wrote: post #70

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They'd keep you in indefinitely for contempt of court for not handing over what you'd stolen.

IANAL, but in the US, the 5th amendment still protects combination locks, and as far as I can tell, passwords. Prosecutors can be as intimidating as they wish, the government is free to use their magical NSA powers to recover the bitcoin. They can't compel someone to incriminate themselves. giving the wallet address to the prosecutor is effectively admitting to a crime, perhaps just conspiracy, but nonetheless that's…

They can compel you to enter the passphrase to decrypt your computer so long as there is sufficient evidence that you are capable of doing so.

What they can't do is say "only the person who committed this crime knows the password" and then force you to enter the password (since doing so would be self incrimination). It's when it's already known that you could enter the password that you can be compelled to.

Re: The Satoshi Nakamoto SourceForge account has been hacked

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Post by aidenn0 »

burnte wrote: post #94
mschuster91 wrote: post #21

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No. The first hop in the SMTP via headers will usually have your DSL router IP.

Only if your DSL router hosts an SMTP relay. You're confusing traceroute with email.

Many (most?) SMTP servers will include the client IP in message headers. IIRC it's even required by ope of the RFCs.

Re: The Satoshi Nakamoto SourceForge account has been hacked

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Post by justin66 »

Steko wrote: post #23
croddin wrote: post #4

Satoshi's account on p2pfoundation.ning.com also made the first comment since he said "I am not Dorian Nakamoto." back in March. It says: "Dear Satoshi. Your dox, passwords and IP addresses are being sold on the darknet. Apparently you didn't configure Tor properly and your IP leaked when you used your email account sometime in 2010. You are not safe. You need to get out of where you are as soon as possible before th…

Why is every mention of possible disclosure of Satoshi's identity fraught with heavy overtones of "Your Life Is In Grave Danger"? We have many people who are much richer whose identities are not secret and we don't need to freak out constantly and warn them that They Are In Grave Danger. AFAIK he's not been accused of any crime either. Is it maybe because Bitcoin enthusiasts have a large overlap with monatery cranks…

> AFAIK he's not been accused of any crime either.

I imagine the IRS really would like to audit him if he's an American citizen, however.

Re: The Satoshi Nakamoto SourceForge account has been hacked

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Post by Steko »

justin66 wrote: post #129
Steko wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why is every mention of possible disclosure of Satoshi's identity fraught with heavy overtones of "Your Life Is In Grave Danger"? We have many people who are much richer whose identities are not secret and we don't need to freak out constantly and warn them that They Are In Grave Danger. AFAIK he's not been accused of any crime either. Is it maybe because Bitcoin enthusiasts have a large overlap with monatery cranks…

> AFAIK he's not been accused of any crime either. I imagine the IRS really would like to audit him if he's an American citizen, however.

Presumably the Bitcoins were not worth anything when he mined them and he won't owe any capital gains until he sells them.
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