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The Satoshi Nakamoto SourceForge account has been hacked

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Re: The Satoshi Nakamoto SourceForge account has been hacked

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Post by nly »

jrochkind1 wrote: post #46
rufugee wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So could someone explain how an IP address would leak when using an email account? I suppose potentially in the SMTP header, but this would assume he was using a email server running on his own personal ip, right? So is the guess here (assuming this is even true) that he had an email server running at home, leaked the ip, and then was attacked when someone found it?

gmail, for instance, includes the client IP address in mail headers. I learned this myself recently from an article here on HN, https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2083798 Haven't checked it myself, just reported there by a former gmail engineer in the context of their anti-spammer efforts.

This has been standard practice since the dawn of SMTP.

Re: The Satoshi Nakamoto SourceForge account has been hacked

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Post by georgemcbay »

https://twitter.com/petertoddbtc/status/509145414008725504

Peter Todd ‏ @petertoddbtc

"Interesting, got another forwarded email from "satoshi", from 2011 - indicates this was a hijacked account, not expired and re-registered."

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Going to grab some popcorn, this might get pretty entertaining...

Re: The Satoshi Nakamoto SourceForge account has been hacked

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Post by copenja »

nostromo wrote: post #30
Steko wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So you're saying holding Bitcoin can be hazardous to our health? Whoa, I don't think that's one of the approved talking points.

If you have a few thousand dollars of gold in your house, you shouldn't worry too much. But if you have a billion dollars of gold in your basement, you should be very, very paranoid. Even with perfect security, you'd still be a ransom target.

Does this same danger also apply to bitcoin exchanges?

Are they heavily guarded?

Just wondering...

Re: The Satoshi Nakamoto SourceForge account has been hacked

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Post by schoen »

georgemcbay wrote: post #44
Bud wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you were really, really angry, and planning to do something about it, would you broadcast that?

If I were rational enough to plan that far ahead, I'd probably be rational enough to realize that the guy who invented bitcoin isn't responsible for anything and everything that happens with it, particularly events to which he has no connection other than having been the inventor. Like if someone steals my expensive Android phone, I'm not going to find Andy Rubin and punch him. Because that ... just wouldn't make any…

Surely Edwin Armstrong bears even greater responsibility in light of his invention of the superheterodyne receiver!

Re: The Satoshi Nakamoto SourceForge account has been hacked

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Post by jonknee »

copenja wrote: post #53
nostromo wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you have a few thousand dollars of gold in your house, you shouldn't worry too much. But if you have a billion dollars of gold in your basement, you should be very, very paranoid. Even with perfect security, you'd still be a ransom target.

Does this same danger also apply to bitcoin exchanges? Are they heavily guarded? Just wondering...

Ask Mt. Gox... Typically an exchange will keep most of its BTC in actual bank vaults. Similar to how you'd store a large amount of gold.

Re: The Satoshi Nakamoto SourceForge account has been hacked

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Post by skizm »

croddin wrote: post #4

Satoshi's account on p2pfoundation.ning.com also made the first comment since he said "I am not Dorian Nakamoto." back in March. It says: "Dear Satoshi. Your dox, passwords and IP addresses are being sold on the darknet. Apparently you didn't configure Tor properly and your IP leaked when you used your email account sometime in 2010. You are not safe. You need to get out of where you are as soon as possible before th…

If Satoshi can't configure Tor correctly how is Joe Blow supposed to figure it out?

Re: The Satoshi Nakamoto SourceForge account has been hacked

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Post by dobbsbob »

copenja wrote: post #53
nostromo wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you have a few thousand dollars of gold in your house, you shouldn't worry too much. But if you have a billion dollars of gold in your basement, you should be very, very paranoid. Even with perfect security, you'd still be a ransom target.

Does this same danger also apply to bitcoin exchanges? Are they heavily guarded? Just wondering...

Not at all, you can freely walk into most exchange offices. Theoretically an armed robbery of exchanges and payment processors would be the perfect crime. Commit private address to memory or tattoo it on yourself in code, after the robbery forcing them to transfer to your public address and waiting out confirmations turn yourself in to the police and do the 5 yrs. Walk out with millions worth of bitcoins on your arm. (Penalty here is 5yrs, unsure anywhere else). Blockchain.info would prob nickname that address "Hans Grueber"

Re: The Satoshi Nakamoto SourceForge account has been hacked

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Post by jacquesm »

nly wrote: post #49
nostromo wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you have a few thousand dollars of gold in your house, you shouldn't worry too much. But if you have a billion dollars of gold in your basement, you should be very, very paranoid. Even with perfect security, you'd still be a ransom target.

> But if you have a billion dollars of gold in your basement, you should be very, very paranoid. At close to 25 tonnes, and ~1.3m³, I'd like to see the engineering behind such a heist

Kill occupants of building, move 1.3 cubic meters of gold in 30 trips with transport van. Now you have a few other problems, such as making sure that you're not going to end up in the same way. Besides surveillance cam footage recording your whereabout during part of your trip and the distance being fairly easily estimated if you do two trips in quick succession leading to a possible ID and or location of the stash.

But getting it out of there is fairly easy if you lack a conscience and have a van. If you had access to a slightly larger truck it would be easier still.

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