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Exploding Offers Suck

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Re: Exploding Offers Suck

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post #4

Academic here: Doesn't this post state that the offer has a 45-day duration? Are offers that "explode" only a few days in duration?

The distinction is this: "exploding" typically refers to a very short period of time, designed to prevent shopping the deal, extensive legal review or advice, or exploring other options. A legitimate deadline for an offer wouldn't be called exploding if it spans many weeks and lets a participant fully understand it.

Re: Exploding Offers Suck

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post #6

It is pretty clear to see whats going on: It is without question that most people applying to incubators apply to a few of them, in case they don't get into the (obviously) best one, YC. Its my guess that some of the less exciting incubators give these exploding term sheets to make the founder think: "Damn, I got into Incubator X but I have to say yes in 48 hours. I wonder if I will get accepted into YC also when ans…

I'd love to see YC innovate in this area rather than shame other incubators into better behavior. Accepting applications on a rolling basis instead of once every 3 months with a 2 month wait, for example. I'm not sure how well that idea would work, but I'm sure there's something that could be done.

Re: Exploding Offers Suck

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It seems like the other accelerators are doing this so they don't end up with only YC-rejects. Since YC is probably considered the top accelerator, it's also better for YC to have other accelerators not give exploding offers. Because then the few companies that would have accepted the exploding offers AND also would have gotten into YC, can now actually go to YC instead of accepting an exploding offer. If I missed something, I'm sure you'll point it out ;)

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post #6

It is pretty clear to see whats going on: It is without question that most people applying to incubators apply to a few of them, in case they don't get into the (obviously) best one, YC. Its my guess that some of the less exciting incubators give these exploding term sheets to make the founder think: "Damn, I got into Incubator X but I have to say yes in 48 hours. I wonder if I will get accepted into YC also when ans…

I'd love to see YC innovate in this area rather than shame other incubators into better behavior. Accepting applications on a rolling basis instead of once every 3 months with a 2 month wait, for example. I'm not sure how well that idea would work, but I'm sure there's something that could be done.

What about the equivalent of an 'early decision' application like in US colleges?

Re: Exploding Offers Suck

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post #6

It is pretty clear to see whats going on: It is without question that most people applying to incubators apply to a few of them, in case they don't get into the (obviously) best one, YC. Its my guess that some of the less exciting incubators give these exploding term sheets to make the founder think: "Damn, I got into Incubator X but I have to say yes in 48 hours. I wonder if I will get accepted into YC also when ans…

It's occurred to me that competing for business by making the process better for the founders, rather than worse, would be the way to go, or at least one business model that other incubators should explore.

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In general, if someone wants me to agree to something "big" immediately, I figure that they don't want me to have time to consider it carefully.

If you don't want me to think about something, I figure you know I would probably decide against your offer (if I did think about it).

Re: Exploding Offers Suck

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post #6

It is pretty clear to see whats going on: It is without question that most people applying to incubators apply to a few of them, in case they don't get into the (obviously) best one, YC. Its my guess that some of the less exciting incubators give these exploding term sheets to make the founder think: "Damn, I got into Incubator X but I have to say yes in 48 hours. I wonder if I will get accepted into YC also when ans…

We turned down an exploding offer from another incubator in order to have time to interview at YC. We ended up getting into YC, so in hindsight it was absolutely the right decision, but scary at the time.

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post #6

It is pretty clear to see whats going on: It is without question that most people applying to incubators apply to a few of them, in case they don't get into the (obviously) best one, YC. Its my guess that some of the less exciting incubators give these exploding term sheets to make the founder think: "Damn, I got into Incubator X but I have to say yes in 48 hours. I wonder if I will get accepted into YC also when ans…

> These guys dont just want YC's cast-offs, after all.

That is thoughtfully provocative. I have literally zero evidence to go from, but I suspect that Y Combinator is like Harvard or Yale: they could get rid of the group that they actually admit and go for the next tier, then achieve similar outcomes. (In other words: there are so many strong applicants that they can't take them all.)

This is just to say that even taking YC's cast-offs could be perfectly acceptable. YC is dominant for now, but it's not hard to imagine a world in which there are a few accelerators which are true YC peers (just like Harvard, Yale, Princeton, and Stanford are variously preferred by different people with real differences in preference).

Re: Exploding Offers Suck

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It's a little different for a lot of other accelerators. YC takes batches of, what? like 40 companies or so in a batch? Most other accelerators are smaller with class sizes around 10. If YC is shooting for 40, and gets 37, it's maybe not a huge deal (8% under target). You could even make 42 or 44 offers and plan for a certain acceptance rate, end up with 44 probably isn't the end of the world (110% capacity).

If another is shooting for 10 and gets 7, that's a 30% drop which is probably enough to mess with the economics of the accelerator. Similarly, if they make 12 offers planning for a certain acceptance rate and end up with all 12, they're at 120% capacity, which also might be enough to mess with the economics.

I still think exploding offers suck, but YC is in a much stronger position to be relaxed about them than others.

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