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Re: Mail-in-a-Box

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What service would the more experienced out there recommend run this on? AWS seems rather expensive, but Digital Ocean wouldn't provide much storage space. Also, what about reliability? Any advice on not getting blacklisted for sharing a subnet with spammers? Or do people generally run setup like this old school: on a server in their bedroom?

You have pretty cheap VPS's by OVH (http://www.ovh.ie/vps/vps-classic.xml) and if you ever outgrow their offer you can move to SoYouStart (http://www.soyoustart.com/ie/essential-servers/) which is also a brand by OVH.

Re: Mail-in-a-Box

#23

What service would the more experienced out there recommend run this on? AWS seems rather expensive, but Digital Ocean wouldn't provide much storage space. Also, what about reliability? Any advice on not getting blacklisted for sharing a subnet with spammers? Or do people generally run setup like this old school: on a server in their bedroom?

TransIP offers VPS with SSD at comparable prices to DO, and more disk space. It's also not an US company, if that makes any difference. No affiliation, just a happy customer.

Regarding blacklists, I run my outbound email through Mandrill. I know it cuts down on the privacy aspect, but I send very few emails anyway compared to what I receive.

Re: Mail-in-a-Box

#24
post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Fastmail costs $40/yr. You can get a half-decent VPS for that with a few bucks to spare on Tarsnap.

Just curious, what's the "half-decent VPS" you're thinking of for ~$3/month?

I'm not spindritf, but I am thinking of BuyVM: http://buyvm.net/

Re: Mail-in-a-Box

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post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Fastmail costs $40/yr. You can get a half-decent VPS for that with a few bucks to spare on Tarsnap.

Just curious, what's the "half-decent VPS" you're thinking of for ~$3/month?

Whatever you can find at the time on http://lowendbox.com/ http://lowendstock.com/ http://www.lowendtalk.com/ or lowendwhatever from a provider that wasn't started yesterday and has decent reviews.

A couple of weeks ago there was a dedicated server offer from online.net floating around for €1.99/mo http://lowendtalk.com/discussion/33122/1-99-%C2%A0dedicated-...

Re: Mail-in-a-Box

#26

Just checked out the [system architecture diagram][1]... We really need to fix email. A modern system would never get away with proposing such a design. [1]: https://mailinabox.email/static/architecture.svg

It's fine. It's a loosely coupled system that uses quite a few components. It's also a complicated problem to solve.

This is trivial compared to our product for example which is an integration hub for financial services companies. There are over 300 of those little boxes.

Going back to the original point though, compare to Exchange 2010: http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=5764

Re: Mail-in-a-Box

#27
post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Just curious, what's the "half-decent VPS" you're thinking of for ~$3/month?

I'm not spindritf, but I am thinking of BuyVM: http://buyvm.net/

You will probably need to go a little lower on the price than BuyVM to squeeze SpamAssasin in.

Re: Mail-in-a-Box

#28
One thing worth noting if you consider running any mail server yourself - is checking the IP address / range that your VPS provides you. I've had outbound email blocked or blacklisted with IPs from DigitalOcean - especially on Yahoo, whereas Linode or AWS give you better reputation.

It was virtually impossible to get unlisted on Yahoo for IPs that are owned by the hosting provider, and I'm not sure all providers would make the effort of doing this on your behalf.

I suspect lower-end VPS providers are even worst in that respect.

Re: Mail-in-a-Box

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post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Fastmail costs $40/yr. You can get a half-decent VPS for that with a few bucks to spare on Tarsnap.

Just curious, what's the "half-decent VPS" you're thinking of for ~$3/month?

I have deployed Sovereign (https://github.com/al3x/sovereign) on a VPS at OVH. It costs me about 2.5 EUR a month and I also use it for purposes other than email.

Re: Mail-in-a-Box

#30

ownCloud needs to integrate this kind of easy email setup. I already run an ownCloud server but deliberately avoided moving my email to it due to the less than ideal state of email on ownCloud

The situation we really want to get to is a single streamlined sign up and set up for email alongside owncloud, with contacts, file storage, calendar, bookmarks and webmail. That would make it an attractive proposition for quite a large section of the population.
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