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Re: Mail-in-a-Box

#11

It's a great idea except that for one person it's going to cost a lot more than buying an account on FastMail (disclaimer: I work there) or any of the other hosting sites (even before you start start thinking redundancy and backups - we have about 10Tb of disk for every 1Tb of pure email quota, by the time you count search indexes and RAID and 3x replication redundancy - two local one offsite) For more than one perso…

Fastmail costs $40/yr. You can get a half-decent VPS for that with a few bucks to spare on Tarsnap.

Unfortunately, there are other costs associated with running than just "a half-decent vps"... IN addition your vps probably has to be better than you expect. For example, ramnode ($20/year) does not give near enough ram to run anti-spam (e.g. amavisd or just clamav solo). You need on the order of a gig of ram. You won't get that for less than $5/mo or $50/year.

You also must buy an ssl cert or else many other email providers will mark your email spam score up.

You also must go through the operational burdon of setting things up and managing backups, restores, etc. This is perhaps 30 hours / year, which means you're already well over the cost of $40/yr.

One thing to note is that for more than a few accounts (bring your own address, catchall, many aliases) you're unlikely to find something that costs as little as $40/year and the cost of running that yourself is identical, so that's where you can start to make money.

I've gone down the route of using hosted and hosting my own mail and feel like I have a good understanding of the costs.

Your flippant remark, completely disregarding even the system requirements, shows that you have not. Good day sir.

Re: Mail-in-a-Box

#12

What service would the more experienced out there recommend run this on? AWS seems rather expensive, but Digital Ocean wouldn't provide much storage space. Also, what about reliability? Any advice on not getting blacklisted for sharing a subnet with spammers? Or do people generally run setup like this old school: on a server in their bedroom?

I think 20GB is certainly reasonable. I use Thunderbird heavily for three accounts and my profile barely exceeds 3GB.

Re: Mail-in-a-Box

#13
> Why build this?

> Mass electronic surveillance by governments revealed [...]

Then why are they suggesting to use DigitalOcean? I think they have to respect the sames laws than Google, right?

Re: Mail-in-a-Box

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If you want to do something similar yet hands-on, I really like Ars Technica's series: http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2014/02/how-to...

Also, for those of you with mobiles that have ActiveSync clients, Francisco Biete's fork of the Zarafa ActiveSync (Z-Push) implementation is really stable, it will do calendar and contact syncing with ownCloud, and it supports remote wipe from your own CLI. https://github.com/fmbiete/Z-Push-contrib

Re: Mail-in-a-Box

#16
post #8

See also: https://github.com/al3x/sovereign

wow, that look awesome, thanks for sharing. Especially like that it is a ansible playbook!

Sovereign is awesome, I run the VPS for my product off a customised version of it. Highly recommended. I especially like that you can run the unit tests locally against Vagrant, it's great.

Re: Mail-in-a-Box

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post #17

How does it compare to iRedMail? http://www.iredmail.org Does it support multiple domains?

To add to the fray: https://yunohost.org/ is an option too for easy install and setup of a mail server - there was a recent HN item on them a while back. Been using it for a month or two and it's worked great so far. Needs Debian. Supports multiple domains.

Re: Mail-in-a-Box

#20

It's a great idea except that for one person it's going to cost a lot more than buying an account on FastMail (disclaimer: I work there) or any of the other hosting sites (even before you start start thinking redundancy and backups - we have about 10Tb of disk for every 1Tb of pure email quota, by the time you count search indexes and RAID and 3x replication redundancy - two local one offsite) For more than one perso…

Fastmail costs $40/yr. You can get a half-decent VPS for that with a few bucks to spare on Tarsnap.

Just curious, what's the "half-decent VPS" you're thinking of for ~$3/month?
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