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How to find reliable programmers?

#1
So, I am sure we all have this problem. But is there a way to find reliable programmers in the US/Canada? I know services like elance exist, but they seem to be overrun by overseas programmers. That is fine, but not what I am looking for. Any ideas?

Re: How to find reliable programmers?

#3
Good, reliable programmers are very expensive. Think $200k/year minimum.

This might not have entered into your vision of reality but I assure you that's how it works. If you keep getting shafted by cheap programming "talent" and keep looking for more, you might just be a fucking idiot.

Re: How to find reliable programmers?

#4

Good, reliable programmers are very expensive. Think $200k/year minimum. This might not have entered into your vision of reality but I assure you that's how it works. If you keep getting shafted by cheap programming "talent" and keep looking for more, you might just be a fucking idiot.

Lovely response. I never said I was getting shafted by cheap programming.

Re: How to find reliable programmers?

#5

Good, reliable programmers are very expensive. Think $200k/year minimum. This might not have entered into your vision of reality but I assure you that's how it works. If you keep getting shafted by cheap programming "talent" and keep looking for more, you might just be a fucking idiot.

Lovely response. I never said I was getting shafted by cheap programming.

Sure you did, you mentioned elance didn't you?

Re: How to find reliable programmers?

#6

Good, reliable programmers are very expensive. Think $200k/year minimum. This might not have entered into your vision of reality but I assure you that's how it works. If you keep getting shafted by cheap programming "talent" and keep looking for more, you might just be a fucking idiot.

If you keep getting shafted by cheap programming "talent" and keep looking for more, you might just be a fucking idiot.

Swearing and making poor extrapolations off of a simple query doesn't make you cool. It actually makes you look like the idiot, not him.

Re: How to find reliable programmers?

#7
It depends on a lot of things. Are you looking for contract work, or for a full time employee? Are you looking for someone to take a lead role, or junior to another programmer that you already have? Do you need experience with a particular set of technologies? Can you spend enough to be competitive with anyone else out there, or are you looking for a cheaper solution? Do they need to live in a particular place or is remote okay?

Re: How to find reliable programmers?

#8
Many of the good programmers avoid services like eLance because they simply can't compete against the lousy coders who will bid $200 to develop an eBay clone in 7 days.

Perhaps you could look in the open source community of your language or technology?

Re: How to find reliable programmers?

#9

Good, reliable programmers are very expensive. Think $200k/year minimum. This might not have entered into your vision of reality but I assure you that's how it works. If you keep getting shafted by cheap programming "talent" and keep looking for more, you might just be a fucking idiot.

Actually what you've just described is an expensive programmer, albeit not overly expensive.

Great programmers tend to value other things such as working with other great programmers and a stimulating problem domain. The money tends to be an adjunct.

Re: How to find reliable programmers?

#10
If your in any city in US/Canada that has even a small startup culture, go to their meetups. I can think of 20 U.S. cities that would be easy to hook into the local IT scene. Tell us where you are and maybe someone can plug you in.

Also, many of the online resources such as elance and oDesk have US and Canadian profiles.

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