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Re: Dyson 360 Eye

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Post by mcgraw »

cpr wrote: post #52

Others have commented similarly, but I just have to say that we've tried various Dysons over the years, and they always start off brilliantly. E.g., we vacuumed a nominally clean bedroom with a new Dyson upright and it was like steam-cleaning, or better, since it was dry--we pulled out a whole container's worth of dirt. But then after 6 mo to a year, they start to fall apart, with (their many internal) joints not sea…

On the flip side, I've had a Dyson for the last 5 years and it's still kicking ass despite contending with the monster amount of Siberian Husky hair that fails to stay on my husky. Extremely happy with this thing. I'd be all over them if things went south within a year.

Re: Dyson 360 Eye

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Post by dfc »

allegory wrote: post #14
veidr wrote: post #3

I always thought Dyson was crap, based solely on their obnoxious ads and garish design. Then I bought my wife their cordless upright vacuum for her birthday (I know, I know, but she asked for it). I was astonished when the vacuum became my favorite piece of tech in the whole house. We have a roomba that works fine, but it's extremely hard to imagine that I won't buy this thing immediately.

You're in the "dyson love" period. It'll wear off, then it'll be: a) they go wrong which happens very often with uprights from experience. The hose goes as does the roller belts and the motor. Also on multiple models, the clips on the can are so bad that the moment you detach it from the unit, it pours its suckings all over the floor again. All parts are expensive. b) they suck the wallpaper off or the floor tiles up…

If you point your vacuum at a wall and wallpaper comes off the wall or vaccuum the floor and tile comes up, I do not think the vacuum is the problem.

If you want to be upset with someone/something it seems like you should be upset at whomever did the crappy WP job or yourself for pointing a vacuum at something you did not want sucked up.

Re: Dyson 360 Eye

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Post by Andrenid »

cpr wrote: post #52

Others have commented similarly, but I just have to say that we've tried various Dysons over the years, and they always start off brilliantly. E.g., we vacuumed a nominally clean bedroom with a new Dyson upright and it was like steam-cleaning, or better, since it was dry--we pulled out a whole container's worth of dirt. But then after 6 mo to a year, they start to fall apart, with (their many internal) joints not sea…

I've had my Dyson upright for probably nearly a decade now (or at least 7-8 years that I can account for at minimum). It started off as a vacuum for a retail store I owned, and was used every single day for about an hour solid, for about 4 years, until I sold my stores... and has since been my home vacuum being used weekly. I've never had it break down, or any parts fall off, and it still works better than any other vacuum I've tried.

Maybe I just got lucky, not sure, but I've been very happy with mine.

Re: Dyson 360 Eye

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Post by veidr »

2muchcoffeeman wrote: post #70
veidr wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hmm, yeah, why? I haven't reflected on that, so let me do so now: It's super light (a grown man can operate the vacuum and hold a beer with the same hand, while holding a baby with the other arm), and yet it is SUPER powerful (I just leave mine in MAX mode, which only lasts for 6 minutes between recharges -- but that's plenty). It's extremely, unbelievably easy to clean/empty (just push one button while holding it ov…

So what are the cons? For one, it looks ridiculous, like a space weapon from a $300-budget high school sci-fi movie. But hmm that's about it. And that's arguable. It's also probably not as powerful as you think. You can't use the Dyson handheld for vacuum bags, but any "drag a pod" vacuum will probably do the job. I think the spinning bristles really help to pull things of the ground or out of carpet fibres. That sai…

+1 bro, I did not even know about that soft brush attachment! Ordered.

Re: Dyson 360 Eye

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Post by prawn »

veidr wrote: post #63
melling wrote: post #54

So, the HN comments are pretty much negative. People seem to be overlooking the most important thing. A hugely successful product in this category will be the spark that launches the home robotics revolution. More players, more money invested, etc. I'm really not sure why robots aren't already vacuuming our floors, raking the leaves and mowing our lawns by now.

Well, I think this already happened. About half the families I know have a Roomba robot vacuum or a knockoff. But it's a big step from vacuuming floors to mowing lawns with sharp blades. I don't personally have a leaf problem, but I would very much like to see a clever window-washing robot. Could be -- would preferably be! -- very slow and small. Something that runs constantly and could go home and charge/clean itsel…

I've always imagined that a window washing robot would have a motorised internal component and a magnetically connected external piece. You'd put it on a window and let it go. If you walked past and noticed it not moving but still charged, you'd swap it to another window.

Obvious flaws (need two people to set it up - one inside and one out) but might work.

How else could you do it? Couldn't trust suction caps on a dirty surface.

Re: Dyson 360 Eye

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Post by masklinn »

krisoft wrote: post #44
bichiliad wrote: post #8

"This unique 360° vision system uses complex mathematics, probability theory, geometry and trigonometry to map and navigate a room. So it knows where it is, where it’s been and where it’s yet to clean." I hate the "Oh, why don't we use slightly complex words to make the consumers feel impressed" marketing practice. Like when shampoo ads use phrases like "advanced [made-up-word] technology." Edit: That was a bit grump…

I have heard multiple people to complain that Roombas are just wandering around randomly. It's worth to note that none of these complainers had a Roomba at home, so the issue might only be a perceived one. But nevertheless in marketing these things count, and who knows? Maybe Dyson tried it and found the sensored version superior in engineering terms too. So on one hand you have people complaining about 'random movem…

> I have heard multiple people to complain that Roombas are just wandering around randomly.

The roombas do, as far as I know, mostly wander randomly. Not only (they'll also follow walls and stuff), but they most definitely don't map a room plan which they methodically go through, they don't have the sensors to.

There are other vacuums with room mapping (samsung's navibot), I'm not aware that they do better than roombas in the long run (although they probably pass over each spot at least once per session, which roombas don't necessarily do)

Re: Dyson 360 Eye

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Post by veidr »

prawn wrote: post #85
veidr wrote: post #63

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well, I think this already happened. About half the families I know have a Roomba robot vacuum or a knockoff. But it's a big step from vacuuming floors to mowing lawns with sharp blades. I don't personally have a leaf problem, but I would very much like to see a clever window-washing robot. Could be -- would preferably be! -- very slow and small. Something that runs constantly and could go home and charge/clean itsel…

I've always imagined that a window washing robot would have a motorised internal component and a magnetically connected external piece. You'd put it on a window and let it go. If you walked past and noticed it not moving but still charged, you'd swap it to another window. Obvious flaws (need two people to set it up - one inside and one out) but might work. How else could you do it? Couldn't trust suction caps on a di…

Yup, I've always imagined two magnetic components, too. Two magnetic robotic butterflies doing a beautiful dance of cleansing.

Re: Dyson 360 Eye

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Post by masklinn »

ctdonath wrote: post #56
mmuro wrote: post #29

Good luck getting underneath furniture or cabinet overhangs!

I'm more concerned about stairs.

Basic roombas handle stairs and overhangs, you just need a very basic IR rangefinder on the circumference, if a finder or two "loses ground" there's probably a hole, treat as a wall.

Re: Dyson 360 Eye

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Post by dragonwriter »

melling wrote: post #54

So, the HN comments are pretty much negative. People seem to be overlooking the most important thing. A hugely successful product in this category will be the spark that launches the home robotics revolution. More players, more money invested, etc. I'm really not sure why robots aren't already vacuuming our floors, raking the leaves and mowing our lawns by now.

> I'm really not sure why robots aren't already vacuuming our floors, raking the leaves and mowing our lawns by now.

Robot floor cleaners have existed for some time and are probably one of the more common and visible consumer applications of robotics, the latter two are more complex because the outdoors environment is less predictable.

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