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Re: Dyson 360 Eye

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Post by deanclatworthy »

veidr wrote: post #3

I always thought Dyson was crap, based solely on their obnoxious ads and garish design. Then I bought my wife their cordless upright vacuum for her birthday (I know, I know, but she asked for it). I was astonished when the vacuum became my favorite piece of tech in the whole house. We have a roomba that works fine, but it's extremely hard to imagine that I won't buy this thing immediately.

There was a recent reddit AMA by a vacuum repair guy, talking about the best brands: http://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/1pe2bd

He was not impressed with dysons: http://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/1pe2bd/iama_vacuum_rep...

I have to say in my experience, having had 2 dysons - they both broke within 2 years.

Re: Dyson 360 Eye

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Post by uptown »

allegory wrote: post #14
veidr wrote: post #3

I always thought Dyson was crap, based solely on their obnoxious ads and garish design. Then I bought my wife their cordless upright vacuum for her birthday (I know, I know, but she asked for it). I was astonished when the vacuum became my favorite piece of tech in the whole house. We have a roomba that works fine, but it's extremely hard to imagine that I won't buy this thing immediately.

You're in the "dyson love" period. It'll wear off, then it'll be: a) they go wrong which happens very often with uprights from experience. The hose goes as does the roller belts and the motor. Also on multiple models, the clips on the can are so bad that the moment you detach it from the unit, it pours its suckings all over the floor again. All parts are expensive. b) they suck the wallpaper off or the floor tiles up…

"you do your back in hoovering with the damn things as they weigh so much."

My Dyson is the lightest upright I've ever owned. It's also far-more maneuverable requiring less lifting since it can usually navigate around furniture.

My only complaint is the angle of the hose when using the attachments. Since the hose comes straight-up, if I'm trying to clean something low, I find the angle to be awkward for that purpose, and it sometimes interrupts the air-flow to the hose. I'd prefer the hose come out at an angle, or perhaps pivot on a swivel as its used.

Re: Dyson 360 Eye

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Post by krisoft »

bichiliad wrote: post #8

"This unique 360° vision system uses complex mathematics, probability theory, geometry and trigonometry to map and navigate a room. So it knows where it is, where it’s been and where it’s yet to clean." I hate the "Oh, why don't we use slightly complex words to make the consumers feel impressed" marketing practice. Like when shampoo ads use phrases like "advanced [made-up-word] technology." Edit: That was a bit grump…

I have heard multiple people to complain that Roombas are just wandering around randomly. It's worth to note that none of these complainers had a Roomba at home, so the issue might only be a perceived one. But nevertheless in marketing these things count, and who knows? Maybe Dyson tried it and found the sensored version superior in engineering terms too.

So on one hand you have people complaining about 'random movements', and you have an automated vac which doesn't do that. How do you communicate this? The feature is clearly important enough for them to put it in the name. It's not called Dyson TankTrack or Dyson DoubleBristle, it's called Dyson 360 Eye.

So they could say: "doesn't move randomly" but that's probably not true, and doesn't sound any good. Quite likely it falls back to random wandering to re-locate from a kidnaped-robot situation. Besides negative statements ought to be avoided because they focus the costumer on what you don't have, instead of what you have. (at least so it goes the marketing wisdom)

They could also just say: "does SLAM (Simultaneous Localization and Mapping)" would be accurate, and would be totally cryptic for anyone who is not in the know.

Of course I haven't tested the robot, but if it does what they imply, then the consumer shouldn't feel impressed because of the complex words. They should feel impressed because this is impressive. Does it vacuum better? Who knows, we will see.

Re: Dyson 360 Eye

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Post by adventured »

bglazer wrote: post #26

Lots of negativity in the comments. A couple questions: 1. For the robotics people, is the "360° eye" camera an innovation, or is this already a standard component of robotic vision? 2. What's the next step for robotics in the house after vacuums?

Any task that humans really hate to do, but like or need to have done.

In one giant category: cleaning. That includes dusting, cleaning walls and ceilings, cleaning showers and tubs and toilets, cleaning windows.

Cooking food. Starting initially from simple things, evolving to more elaborate combinations. Chef3000 can now cook over 500 things! Self-cleaning!

Mowing the grass. Some companies are already deep into trying to solve this of course.

A total laundry system (this is decades away from being practical, and may require the classic sci-fi robot that does everything). Give the system the clothing, it sorts and understands fabrics and colors, or can be trained to identify specific clothing, washes it, dries it, folds it.

Re: Dyson 360 Eye

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Post by deanclatworthy »

maguirre wrote: post #21

For the web inclined guys here. What techniques are used to show motion/animation? looks quite smooth/impressive

It cycles through images based on scroll position. My colleague built a site that uses technique and made a library to make managing it easier.

The site: http://download.kone.com/ultrarope/index.htm

The code: https://github.com/kontur/jquery.video-frame-animation

Re: Dyson 360 Eye

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Post by [deleted] »

veidr wrote: post #34
skrebbel wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You forgot to include your core argument - why did the vacuum become your favorite piece of tech in the whole house? EDIT: for the downvote mafia: I genuinely want to know. Not every short comment is a snark.

Hmm, yeah, why? I haven't reflected on that, so let me do so now: It's super light (a grown man can operate the vacuum and hold a beer with the same hand, while holding a baby with the other arm), and yet it is SUPER powerful (I just leave mine in MAX mode, which only lasts for 6 minutes between recharges -- but that's plenty). It's extremely, unbelievably easy to clean/empty (just push one button while holding it ov…

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Re: Dyson 360 Eye

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Post by yen223 »

bichiliad wrote: post #8

"This unique 360° vision system uses complex mathematics, probability theory, geometry and trigonometry to map and navigate a room. So it knows where it is, where it’s been and where it’s yet to clean." I hate the "Oh, why don't we use slightly complex words to make the consumers feel impressed" marketing practice. Like when shampoo ads use phrases like "advanced [made-up-word] technology." Edit: That was a bit grump…

To be fair, those stuff ain't easy.

Re: Dyson 360 Eye

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Post by uptown »

maguirre wrote: post #21

For the web inclined guys here. What techniques are used to show motion/animation? looks quite smooth/impressive

It's an HTML5 video. If you inspect the page, you'll see the following:
So your browser determines which video to play based on your browser's capabilities. And the pagination can be handled with a technique as follows:

http://www.thepetedesign.com/demos/onepage_scroll_demo.html

Re: Dyson 360 Eye

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Post by noir_lord »

veidr wrote: post #3

I always thought Dyson was crap, based solely on their obnoxious ads and garish design. Then I bought my wife their cordless upright vacuum for her birthday (I know, I know, but she asked for it). I was astonished when the vacuum became my favorite piece of tech in the whole house. We have a roomba that works fine, but it's extremely hard to imagine that I won't buy this thing immediately.

I have a Dyson DCO7 which was manufactured in 2001 (my gran bought it and I inherited it).

It is literally as good as the day I got it, I recently had to "service" it (removing two foam filters with two clips and run them under the tap is hardly servicing) and that is the only time I've had to do anything to it in over a decade.

They cost more but are worth absolutely every penny, they also prove that a focus on quality, design and longevity can command a margin that customers will happily pay if you can get that message across.

When it dies I'll by another immediately.

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