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Logitech K480 – Bluetooth Multi-Device Keyboard

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Re: Logitech K480 – Bluetooth Multi-Device Keyboard

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post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Whoa, I totally missed that link. Thanks! Now .. I can order it in various languages, the only English one being the UK layout. ;-) I'm reasonably sure I want the US layout, trying to compare them now to spot the differences. Edit: Yeah. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_and_American_keyboards - I am used to/want the US one. So still no luck unfortunately.

For most users the changes aren't too troublesome (see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_and_American_keyboards ) but I'm so used to coding on on the UK one I find it difficult to switch. The \, #, " and £ are the ones that cause my most difficulty. And to me, the little US enter key just strange (it's double-height on UK keyboards).

Yeah, I'm both a Linux user/enthusiast (I need `~\|# in the Right™ places) and a developer (Switched from DE to US mostly for []{};: etc - the UK difference would be smaller here: A moved \ and @" would be most annoying).

The tiny enter key is actually a requirement for me (to have \| in the right place). Hrm. So maybe I'll shoot one of these keyboards with the US layout on eBay in the future or something.

Full circle: Shopping keyboards is hard..

Re: Logitech K480 – Bluetooth Multi-Device Keyboard

#52
post #45

Only available for pre-order and only shipping to the US it seems. They got me interested enough to order one, but.. By the time it arrives in shops that deliver to DE every single supplier will certainly make sure to offer a localized qwertz layout only. Shopping keyboards is hard here.

Learn to touchtype, never worry about what's printed on the keys ever again :) Seriously though, if you work with computers it's definitely worth your while to take a few weeks to learn how to touchtype properly in the layout of your choice.

Your assumption is flawed.

I can touch type (although I've to admit that I'm not using the 'right' system. It works, both for text and code snippets and is quite fast, but .. well.. not the typical home row thing).

That doesn't help me here: The keys are physically in different places on these layouts. Look at a US keyboard and compare it with UK (or DE). Enter key, backslash, left shift key: Even if you remove the labels or just ignore them, keys are 'missing'.

Re: Logitech K480 – Bluetooth Multi-Device Keyboard

#53
post #29

I don't get why this is so newsworthy and "innovative". Matias makes a good line of keyboards[0] (even a mechanical one!) based on the same concept, just with 1 wireless and 1 wired connection. Wired is a lot less of a hassle for me anyway, and you don't even have to change the batteries. [0]: http://matias.ca/onekeyboard/

Matias has some unpleasant keyboard patent stuff in their history, relating to half-keyboards.

http://ask.slashdot.org/story/12/08/23/1229240/ask-slashdot-...

(Search for Patent)

Re: Logitech K480 – Bluetooth Multi-Device Keyboard

#54
post #29

I don't get why this is so newsworthy and "innovative". Matias makes a good line of keyboards[0] (even a mechanical one!) based on the same concept, just with 1 wireless and 1 wired connection. Wired is a lot less of a hassle for me anyway, and you don't even have to change the batteries. [0]: http://matias.ca/onekeyboard/

just with 1 wireless and 1 wired connection

That's the innovation part. 1 wireless + 1 wired doesn't help you much if you want to use it with multiple mobile devices (tablet + phone, for example) besides laptops.

Personally, your keyboard would be useless to me; when I want to use laptop + tablet, I just use a regular keyboard and the Remote Keyboard app: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=de.onyxbits.re...

Re: Logitech K480 – Bluetooth Multi-Device Keyboard

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post #9

I loved that thing all the way up until I saw that ctrl and fn were swapped from the standard layout =-( Otherwise, I know of quite a few people who could really use this thing!

Different laptops have different layouts. My work laptop (UK HP EliteBook) has them in the same order as this one.

Re: Logitech K480 – Bluetooth Multi-Device Keyboard

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post #47

Or you could turn your existing computer keyboard into a bluetooth keyboard for other peripheral devices for a fraction of the cost: http://www.eyalw.com/1keyboard

"fraction of the cost" - assuming you already own a Mac. For us non-OSX users, it is much cheaper to consider the Logitech :)

Re: Logitech K480 – Bluetooth Multi-Device Keyboard

#58
post #47

Or you could turn your existing computer keyboard into a bluetooth keyboard for other peripheral devices for a fraction of the cost: http://www.eyalw.com/1keyboard

What's special about this Logitech keyboard is the switch to select the pairing with 3 devices so you don't have to pair and repair all the time to use the device with your phone and then your tablet and computer.
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