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A Call for a Low-Carb Diet

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Re: A Call for a Low-Carb Diet

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Post by laichzeit0 »

mark_integerdsv wrote: post #225
laichzeit0 wrote: post #171

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My main gripe is that low-carb dieting is being sold as a "one stop shop" for dieting. You'll notice how the undertone of the article is that it's more "healthy" and "lower risk" to eat low carb. This complete myth if you count your calories. It's the programming world equivalent of someone going "A call for Functional Programming" and then telling you how shit imperative languages are. If everyone just coded in Hask…

Down 15kg since April, Keto. I highly doubt that anyone doing Keto with a good amount of success is doing so without tracking macros. It is ironic that you'd decry ignorance and oversimplification when in point of fact you are guilty of the same in doing so.

From the article itself:

"It included a racially diverse group of 150 men and women — a rarity in clinical nutrition studies — who were assigned to follow diets for one year that limited either the amount of carbs or fat that they could eat, _but not overall calories_." emphasis mine.

This particular study is touting the virtues of not tracking calories. It's basically what the entire article is about. Eating low carb without counting calories.

Re: A Call for a Low-Carb Diet

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Post by laichzeit0 »

elliott34 wrote: post #235
laichzeit0 wrote: post #171

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My main gripe is that low-carb dieting is being sold as a "one stop shop" for dieting. You'll notice how the undertone of the article is that it's more "healthy" and "lower risk" to eat low carb. This complete myth if you count your calories. It's the programming world equivalent of someone going "A call for Functional Programming" and then telling you how shit imperative languages are. If everyone just coded in Hask…

Do you work from home?

No I don't, but the only meal I eat at work is lunch and a few snacks, which I prepare the night before. I usually make lunch for the next 2 days to save time.

Re: A Call for a Low-Carb Diet

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Post by nashequilibrium »

toomuchtodo wrote: post #239
nashequilibrium wrote: post #199

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You talking about a keto diet which is high protein, high fat, limiting the carbs to under 50g or less, depending on your size. High protein, Low carb, does not reduce the carbs to such a level that it puts you in a keto state. Half a cup of mixed veg has around 12g carbs, so eating a cup at every meal with your protein will not put you in a keto state but will keep you at a low carb level. This is where most bodybui…

I'm on an extreme version of keto (come stop by /r/keto on reddit!), where I consume under 20g/sugar a day (the rest is fat and vegetable protein). I'm losing ~2-2.5lbs/week, and have never felt better.

Hats off, i have tried keto, just couldn't handle it.

Re: A Call for a Low-Carb Diet

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Post by toomuchtodo »

nashequilibrium wrote: post #243
toomuchtodo wrote: post #239

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I'm on an extreme version of keto (come stop by /r/keto on reddit!), where I consume under 20g/sugar a day (the rest is fat and vegetable protein). I'm losing ~2-2.5lbs/week, and have never felt better.

Hats off, i have tried keto, just couldn't handle it.

Half real food, half DIY Keto-specific Soylent.

I'm 31, and spent the majority of my early 20s at startups wolfing down Mountain dew. Was up to almost 200 lbs for being 5' 6", and now I'm down to 165, and headed towards 150.

Exercise is critical as well. I run 3-5 miles every other day, with a 10 mile on Saturday or Sunday.

Re: A Call for a Low-Carb Diet

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Post by vacri »

andyjohnson0 wrote: post #194
vacri wrote: post #174

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The whole vegetarian vs meat-eater thing is something of a canard anyway. We're biologically omnivores. If you want to be a vegetarian, that's cool, but you need to ensure your diet covers the things you'd usually get from meats. But at this point, you're making a moral decision, not a nutritional decision - whether you get your protein from fish or from beans matters little to your body, as long as you get it. Hunte…

Wikipedia has some numbers [1] on life expectancy at various time in history. In the Upper Paleolithic, life expectancy at birth was 33 years, and by 15 years of age the total expectancy went up to 54 years. In Classical Rome, life expectancy at birth was 20-30 years, and by 10 years of age the total expectancy went up to 45-47 years. In Medieval Britain, life expectancy at birth was 30 years, and by 15 years of age…

Those numbers work fine with what I said, they're fairly full adult lives. Life expectency has been rising over the past few decades with improvements to medical care, but only 50 years ago in the US, it was 70 years. If that's 'full', then the numbers above are 'fairly full', I think. Rome might be a touch short, but it's still much longer than the idea most people drop dead by 30.

Certainly in a sociological sense, most people consider the years 60+ to be twilight years where you're not living life to the fullest - whether it's true or not, that's the perception.

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Post by will_work4tears »

Evgeny wrote: post #240
will_work4tears wrote: post #220

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Sugar and white rice are on that list and you single out potatoes? Nutritiondata.self.com has a "completeness score" of 57/100 for potatoes, but only 27/100 for white rice (long grain), and a 0/100 for sugar (which is nothing but empty calories). FWIW, wheat flour is listed as 33/100 so potatoes are the top of the whole list. Edit: for comparison, Kale (raw) has a "completeness score" of 85/100 and Spinach (cooked) h…

Sugar and white rice are on that list and you single out potatoes? Yes, sorry - I singled out potatoes as a decent food, while the others are truly horrible.

Gotcha, Sorry for jumping to a conclusion then.

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Post by theodoree »

Mikeb85 wrote: post #161
jrapdx3 wrote: post #158

"Diet" is a subject that I've studied for most of my life, and I'm no youngster. The same arguments about dietary composition have been going on for at least 150 years. There may be many opinions but for my part, I'd rather listen to the scientific evidence. I was medical director of an obesity treatment clinic for many years. The low carbohydrate (CHO), optimal protein intake diet was often effective for weight loss…

And yet some of the healthiest people on earth eat vegetable heavy diets... The archaeological record shows that hunter-gatherers had an abysmally short lifespan, and were far from healthy... Pretty much every positive development in human health history happened after the advent of agriculture. Hunter gatherers were lucky to live past 30... I'd guess your 'low carb' diet still had more vegetables and grains than mos…

Lots of assumptions there mate.

"some of the healthiest people on earth eat vegetable heavy diets..."

That doesn't mean anything. That barely even makes any sense.

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