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Re: Coffee naps are better than coffee or naps alone

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Works great on road trips, I need to be just right amount of tired for it to work for me though then stop at a diner like Waffle House, get a bite and a coffee, head back to the car and nod off for a spell. You wake-up peculiarly alert.

Re: Coffee naps are better than coffee or naps alone

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hmm.. i believe this is pretty the same in Greece, at least during weekends, holidays and work-free days. In every lunch-gathering with close relatives, or close friends, at least one or two person take a short nap on the couch after the lunch, while the rest are having a relaxed and low voice chat. Usually the persons who fall asleep are males.

wow, how does anyone get anything done in that country! Compare it to the asian countries that work 16 hour days....

Napping is actually a big part of the culture. You'll see many people catching naps on trains, buses, and other public places, even while standing up.

Japan has its own word "inemuri" for the practice of sleeping on the job, which is sometimes even faked to make it look like they're working hard. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inemuri

Recently this practice has become more accepted company policy. http://www.japantimes.co.jp/opinion/2014/06/07/editorials/po...

Re: Coffee naps are better than coffee or naps alone

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wow, how does anyone get anything done in that country! Compare it to the asian countries that work 16 hour days....

Napping is actually a big part of the culture. You'll see many people catching naps on trains, buses, and other public places, even while standing up. Japan has its own word "inemuri" for the practice of sleeping on the job, which is sometimes even faked to make it look like they're working hard. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inemuri Recently this practice has become more accepted company policy. http://www.japantimes…

>Japan has its own word "inemuri" for the practice of sleeping on the job, which is sometimes even faked to make it look like they're working hard.

Huh. Definitely not a part of American work culture - it's likely you'll wake up with a pink slip taped to your face.

Re: Coffee naps are better than coffee or naps alone

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hmm.. i believe this is pretty the same in Greece, at least during weekends, holidays and work-free days. In every lunch-gathering with close relatives, or close friends, at least one or two person take a short nap on the couch after the lunch, while the rest are having a relaxed and low voice chat. Usually the persons who fall asleep are males.

wow, how does anyone get anything done in that country! Compare it to the asian countries that work 16 hour days....

I think that's actually more optimal. After lunch I'm usually brain dead for around one hour or so and I don't really get much done.

I could as well take a nap and then get back to work with renewed energy.

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Read this carefully: I used to think this way as well. This thinking lead me to the exact wrong strategy for naps. There are many stages of sleep; stage 1 through 4, and REM sleep. These, it is hypothesized, have distinct physiological functions. Most importantly for this discussion, waking up out of each have very different effects. Waking from stage 1 sleep makes you feel immediately refreshed, and people perform b…

I always had difficulty finding the correct amount of time to nap for where I would wake up feeling refreshed and not drowsy, until I read about Dali napping with a spoon in his hand. The idea is that you hold the spoon off the bed/couch so that as soon as you start to drop past stage 2, your hand releases the spoon, it falls to the floor and wakes you up. I now do this combined with a caffeine nap (green tea) and it…

That's awesome!

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> I'm always thinking Otherwise known as "lettings your mind wander". Just go with it, you don't have to not-think. It is perfectly fine to spend 20 minutes laying down and thinking.

And what's supposed to happen when it's an hour later and the mind is still wandering but not sleeping any more than originally?

Nothing much? You don't have to fall asleep to feel rested from taking an hour long break ...

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Yes. If you lay still with your eyes closed and make sure your phone and internet stay quiet, you will fall asleep in 10 minutes or so. That then leaves enough to get 10 minutes or so of sleep and get back up 20 minutes after starting your nap. Much longer than that and you risk not getting up for another few hours. Much less than that and you won't get any rest. And yes, this works perfectly well even without fallin…

Sorry, but I can't do any of the things you list (fall asleep within 10 minutes whether I'm trying to fall asleep for a nap or to go to bed at night; let my mind wander and not get distracted; not worry). I have a lot of anxiety, which I imagine is relatively common among the developer and tech community. Sleep and peacefulness does not come easily to me. I've tried taking naps at various points over the years, but h…

Have you ever tried meditation/mindfulness? It sounds like it may help you learn to quiet your mind.

Re: Coffee naps are better than coffee or naps alone

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Serious Question: What can I do where I really need to do this in the afternoon (and would of course really increase productivity), but I'm not allowed to nap at work?

Best bet is to leave work for lunch. Sit in your car if you have one, wearing sunglasses. Best if your car has tinted windows. If your building has a parking garage, that is ideal, less chance of random person thinking you are dead and calling the cops. If you don't have a car, bathroom stalls might work, if you can find a clean spot where you can sit on the toilet and lean your head against the stall wall. Wiping down the area where you lay your head with hand sanitizer might be a good move. Some libraries have private rooms you can reserve for studying. If it's too hard at your job, you may have to decide whether it's worth changing jobs. It sounds silly, but if taking a siesta would have a significant positive impact on your productivity (and it does for many people), then changing jobs is a reasonable step IMO.

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Ditto this. My wife can nap no problem. I might nap every couple months, and its basically a disrupted sleep and not a nap. I wake up feeling terrible; groggy, mild headache, irritable. I'd have been better off not napping as it inevitably comes when I've got so much to do and no energy and that "if I have a quick nap I'll feel refreshed and be ready to work!" Nope!

I'm the same way -- every once in a while I'll fall asleep on a weekend around mid afternoon, and sometimes wake up 4 hours later. Then I really feel like yuck for another hour. And I can't fall asleep easily that night either (usually I don't have a problem falling asleep, just not getting interrupted in the middle by the dog wanting to get let out).

4 hours of sleep is not a nap. The refreshing feeling you get after a nap is completely different from the one you get when you've gone into deep sleep.
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