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Re: Ask HN: What are some Bay Area startups that don't use an open office plan?

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A somewhat related question: I'm about to start a job at a company with "open office" structure, after having my own office for the last 4 years. Anything I should be prepared for? EDIT: Any headphones suggestions?

More Distractions - get a good pair of headphones some people swear by those noise cancelling ones.

Re: Ask HN: What are some Bay Area startups that don't use an open office plan?

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I think if you keep different "functions" (engineering, sales, ...) separate, then each can have their own open office without losing productivity. Don't you think so?

Depends. In my opinion, for engineers you can have open office rooms with 2-5 people, all engineers/no bullshitting managers. But not more. I've noticed that a lot of work can be done in groups like that...

Re: Ask HN: What are some Bay Area startups that don't use an open office plan?

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I think if you keep different "functions" (engineering, sales, ...) separate, then each can have their own open office without losing productivity. Don't you think so?

No Research from IBM proves this - you can almost as easily get distracted by co workers in the same functional group.

Though 2 or 3 engineers in an office can work quite well

Re: Ask HN: What are some Bay Area startups that don't use an open office plan?

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I think if you keep different "functions" (engineering, sales, ...) separate, then each can have their own open office without losing productivity. Don't you think so?

I have to disagree. One of my main advantages of working at home is that I'm not constantly flooded with tiny requests for comment/help or general small talk - and that's only talking about the engineering part of that company.

(And that company didn't have an open floor plan, but did have shared offices for 2-6 people)

In my opinion it depends on the culture and the people, not the roles/positions in the company.

Re: Ask HN: What are some Bay Area startups that don't use an open office plan?

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I think if you keep different "functions" (engineering, sales, ...) separate, then each can have their own open office without losing productivity. Don't you think so?

How many programming questions do you field a day? I think it's probably 3 or 4 for me. I probably bother people 3 or 4 times a day too.

Every one of those conversations happens in someone's office right now, and distracts at most 2 people.

How long does it take for you to get "back in the groove" afterwards? Probably 5-10 minutes for me, more if I was doing something particularly intensive.

Now, lay out me and my ten coworkers in an open floor plan and watch what happens.

There's no way it works.

Re: Ask HN: What are some Bay Area startups that don't use an open office plan?

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I think if you keep different "functions" (engineering, sales, ...) separate, then each can have their own open office without losing productivity. Don't you think so?

I'm not convinced. I'm in an engineering area but if it's open plan then I'd still be able to see people, hear their (arguably more interesting than sales) conversations, and constantly have to split attention between monitoring the area around me and focusing on whatever problem I'm solving.

An engineer coming into my cube to chat a few minutes ago is what distracted me and now I'm frustrated and browsing HN. It's bad enough in high-walled cubicles; I don't know that I could maintain deep focus for meaningful amounts of time in an open plan.

I put a door on my cubicle recently and being able to mentally expand to fill my space while free from worrying about anybody else has done wonders for my productivity.

Re: Ask HN: What are some Bay Area startups that don't use an open office plan?

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I think if you keep different "functions" (engineering, sales, ...) separate, then each can have their own open office without losing productivity. Don't you think so?

I'm not convinced. I'm in an engineering area but if it's open plan then I'd still be able to see people, hear their (arguably more interesting than sales) conversations, and constantly have to split attention between monitoring the area around me and focusing on whatever problem I'm solving. An engineer coming into my cube to chat a few minutes ago is what distracted me and now I'm frustrated and browsing HN. It's b…

I seriously do not know how people still manage to work like that.

One of my requirements is a private office. I will not do cubicles, I sure as hell will not do open plans. Office. Period.

I've turned down a few decent offers because of this, and I'm sure I'll turn down more in the future as well.

Re: Ask HN: What are some Bay Area startups that don't use an open office plan?

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A somewhat related question: I'm about to start a job at a company with "open office" structure, after having my own office for the last 4 years. Anything I should be prepared for? EDIT: Any headphones suggestions?

Buy some really nice noise canceling headphones is definitely top of the preparation list. You'll be wearing them 80+% of your day.

I have found that whatever peace blocking noise gives you, it is more than offset by the paranoia of being watched or the terror of people sneaking up behind you.

Re: Ask HN: What are some Bay Area startups that don't use an open office plan?

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A somewhat related question: I'm about to start a job at a company with "open office" structure, after having my own office for the last 4 years. Anything I should be prepared for? EDIT: Any headphones suggestions?

Get a good pair of over ear noise canceling headphones that are light. In-Ear work well but will probably start hurting you ears if you wear them for an extended period of time.
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