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Ask HN: Palantir or Facebook?

#1
Similarly to the question asked on HN four years ago, I am deciding between a grad position with Palantir or a grad position with Facebook, and I'm having a tough time deciding. Both positions would be in NY.

Palantir is a much smaller company (in particular, the team I would be joining is tiny) so I feel like I'd have a much larger impact on the product itself, while Facebook is one of the most used things on the internet. It seems like the major difference is in the difference between a consumer product and an enterprise product, but I would be happy working in either area.

I'm finding it very difficult to decide, so I'm thinking about just going for whichever one will be higher paying, post negotiation. Is this dumb?

Thanks for reading!

EDIT: Both positions are in software engineering, and offers seem mostly comparable in terms of perks and benefits.

Re: Ask HN: Palantir or Facebook?

#3
Yes this might be a dumb way of deciding where to work, especially because you might be able to negotiate your salary based on the competitive offers you might get.

Ask yourself:

- with which of the companies (mission and strategy, as well as customers) can you identify yourself best?

- where do you see yourself having a more pleasent work environment in regards to the people you would be working with and the working culture/environment?

- what are your future career targets and which opportunity might increase the probability to reach them? what is the potential for the role?

- what might be the goals, and can you identify with them as well as add value, of your direct reports?

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#4
This is a very difficult question for anyone to answer for you. It all depends on which metrics/values are most important to you. Here are a few generic ideas:

You can look on Glassdoor for company reviews but they tend to be biased negatively, as in disgruntled people are more likely to write and complain about their experiences than those who are perfectly happy.

Talk to people at both companies, preferably ones in similar positions or doing similar work.

In terms of salary, don't fixate on just the salary but consider total compensation as in salary + stock options + rsu + bonus, etc...

Finally given that you've presumably interviewed with teams at both companies, you should have a better sense about your would-be teammates and manager and which environment suits you better.

Re: Ask HN: Palantir or Facebook?

#5
I'd go with Facebook, I imagine they're offering more money anyway. Facebook is a household name, has better perks last time I checked, and more offices.

Palantir looks hip but the work they do is very boring on the Forward-Deployed engineer side — which, being a position in New York, sounds like what you're gonna be doing.

PS I interviewed with both these companies very recently.

Re: Ask HN: Palantir or Facebook?

#8

I saw this in my RSS feed. Without seeing the text, I actually thought this post was going to be a question of which company was more evil. Downvotes welcomed, but I stand by my point.

Palantir, by far.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/andygreenberg/2011/02/09/did-sec...

Re: Ask HN: Palantir or Facebook?

#9
I think very few people would blame you for taking the mercenary approach here. However, you may wish to consider who it is you will be working for.

Palantir is deeply entrenched in the surveillance state. Though they may come at you with a decent offer, I believe it is ethically impermissible to use my skills in order to contribute to the deprivation of the human rights of others across the world.

I do not have much positive to say about Facebook either, except that the bulk of their revenue does not come from three letter agencies. And they have in the past and will probably continue in the future to solve some interesting challenges in scalability.

Re: Ask HN: Palantir or Facebook?

#10

I saw this in my RSS feed. Without seeing the text, I actually thought this post was going to be a question of which company was more evil. Downvotes welcomed, but I stand by my point.

Kinda hard not to immediately jump to that conclusion isn't it? Both companies definitely have some trouble in the PR side of things
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