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However I understand that the story fits the political narrative of the forums here, and will therefore be upvoted despite any lack of sense or evidence.
Interesting article, but it's a pity they chose to lead with weasel words. "One thing sits at the heart of what many consider a surveillance state within the US today."
The readership at Hacker News firmly believes that the US is a surveillance state. Stories are chosen and upvoted which confirm this worldview. Dissenting opinions are downvoted. If you're looking for a reasoned evidence-based discussion of the NSA, then choose a different website.
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I feel offended by the way US-media approaches this matter and by my country's stance on the matter (not even a comment about it). Civilisation (broadly speaking) doesn't evolves hand-in-hand with technology. It is the major danger of our future.
Because for non-US countries nothing has changed. It's been a publicly known fact that the US spies on non-US citizens by monitoring internet traffic for over 20 years. Ask any hacker aged over 24. There's simply hardly anything worth being surprised about as a foreign national. If you asked anyone in The Netherlands 10 years ago if they thought their e-mail on Hotmail or GMail was monitored by authorities in the U.S…
Interesting article, but it's a pity they chose to lead with weasel words. "One thing sits at the heart of what many consider a surveillance state within the US today."
If you're wondering why you are being downvoted... The readership at Hacker News firmly believes that the US is a surveillance state. Stories are chosen and upvoted which confirm this worldview. Dissenting opinions are downvoted. If you're looking for a reasoned evidence-based discussion of the NSA, then choose a different website.
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I feel offended by the way US-media approaches this matter and by my country's stance on the matter (not even a comment about it). Civilisation (broadly speaking) doesn't evolves hand-in-hand with technology. It is the major danger of our future.
Because for non-US countries nothing has changed. It's been a publicly known fact that the US spies on non-US citizens by monitoring internet traffic for over 20 years. Ask any hacker aged over 24. There's simply hardly anything worth being surprised about as a foreign national. If you asked anyone in The Netherlands 10 years ago if they thought their e-mail on Hotmail or GMail was monitored by authorities in the U.S…
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Because for non-US countries nothing has changed. It's been a publicly known fact that the US spies on non-US citizens by monitoring internet traffic for over 20 years. Ask any hacker aged over 24. There's simply hardly anything worth being surprised about as a foreign national. If you asked anyone in The Netherlands 10 years ago if they thought their e-mail on Hotmail or GMail was monitored by authorities in the U.S…
Think about it. You're saying that the USA spies on all non-US internet traffic. Does that make any sense? Is there any evidence? No and no.
They are just worried that US citizens think the USA spies on them.
PS. The USA doesn't only spy on non-US traffic, they just hide the spying inside the US more secretive :)
PS2. Every country tries to spy though, not only the US :)
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Because for non-US countries nothing has changed. It's been a publicly known fact that the US spies on non-US citizens by monitoring internet traffic for over 20 years. Ask any hacker aged over 24. There's simply hardly anything worth being surprised about as a foreign national. If you asked anyone in The Netherlands 10 years ago if they thought their e-mail on Hotmail or GMail was monitored by authorities in the U.S…
Think about it. You're saying that the USA spies on all non-US internet traffic. Does that make any sense? Is there any evidence? No and no.
1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ECHELON#European_Parliament_inv...
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Because for non-US countries nothing has changed. It's been a publicly known fact that the US spies on non-US citizens by monitoring internet traffic for over 20 years. Ask any hacker aged over 24. There's simply hardly anything worth being surprised about as a foreign national. If you asked anyone in The Netherlands 10 years ago if they thought their e-mail on Hotmail or GMail was monitored by authorities in the U.S…
Think about it. You're saying that the USA spies on all non-US internet traffic. Does that make any sense? Is there any evidence? No and no.
Yes, the NSA can monitor specific targets. Do they monitor all Internet traffic worldwide? No, such a task is absurd and technically impossible. However I have learned that people's opinions about the NSA are faith-based, and not open to reasoned arguments.
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Because for non-US countries nothing has changed. It's been a publicly known fact that the US spies on non-US citizens by monitoring internet traffic for over 20 years. Ask any hacker aged over 24. There's simply hardly anything worth being surprised about as a foreign national. If you asked anyone in The Netherlands 10 years ago if they thought their e-mail on Hotmail or GMail was monitored by authorities in the U.S…
I agree, I find it way more shocking that my government (the Netherlands) is so laid back about all this than the "revelation" that Americans care about America spying on Americans. Yes, the dutch government announced a Dropbox alternative that is open source ( http://tweakers.net/nieuws/97793/overheid-werkt-aan-opensour... ) but I believe it is the wrong approach. They should publicly denounce NSA spying and swear t…
Another top-voted article about the NSA on Hacker News that is thin on evidence to say the least. It appears to be hearsay from a disgruntled ex-employee. However I understand that the story fits the political narrative of the forums here, and will therefore be upvoted despite any lack of sense or evidence.
Current employees who are happy and fulfilled in their work in the security services don't tend to say all that much to the press.