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Re: Notch programming a Doom-like in Dart

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Post by 59nadir »

gnarbarian wrote: post #86
laxatives wrote: post #73

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'd rather be a successful programmer than a stellar one (probably).

Of course! "perfect is the enemy of good" Minecraft itself was a clone of the game "infiniminer". Whose developer had given up and stopped work after the source code was stolen. When I think of the rise of Minecraft I am drawn to a few things he did differently. 1) He set up a way for customers to pay him for the game early (as soon as he had a minimum viable product). This gave him tons of feedback, money to keep wo…

> 6) He didn't focus on graphics. He made design choices that would drastically simplify development at the expense of quality and/or performance. This lent itself to a blocky 'style' that was both easy to handle and visually unique.

This one is widely considered to be false. There have been numerous catastrophic overhauls of many of Minecraft's sub-systems because they are very poorly designed, leading to stalled overhauls and whatnot. The architecture of systems was definitely not Notch's strong suit. That he chose an easy way to structure the world is only one of many design choices.

Re: Notch programming a Doom-like in Dart

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Post by grrowl »

elwell wrote: post #96
odonnellryan wrote: post #87

I found these hilarious: https://github.com/xNotch/dark/issues

My favorite: https://github.com/xNotch/dark/issues/13 Note the username.

Looks like John opened an account just to file the issue: "Joined on Aug 25, 2014"[1]

[1]: https://github.com/jcarmack

Re: Notch programming a Doom-like in Dart

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Post by ehurrell »

photex wrote: post #112
smrtinsert wrote: post #40

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That's so dismissive, Bob Ross was the running ironic joke of the painting world.

Bob Ross was a national treasure who dedicated his life to helping others see that it is wonderful to make or create for the sake of it. Anyone I've met who thinks he's a joke have been illustrators who hadn't yet come to terms with the reality that they were craftspeople and not fine-artists. As if there is some dishonor for being a dedicated and skilled craftsperson. Having a passion for and love for a craft at any…

I live in a country where Bob Ross isn't really known at all, and I spend a lot of my free time doing illustration or painting (http://ultimatehurl.tumblr.com is where I post stuff, to give an idea). Having relatively recently learned of him and his show I think it's amazing and encouraging. I have no formal training yet frequently have people say to me 'I could never do something like that!', Bob Ross worked to prove that's not true, because it's really not.

Re: Notch programming a Doom-like in Dart

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Post by darklajid »

grrowl wrote: post #132
elwell wrote: post #96

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My favorite: https://github.com/xNotch/dark/issues/13 Note the username.

Looks like John opened an account just to file the issue: "Joined on Aug 25, 2014"[1] [1]: https://github.com/jcarmack

John - or a random guy/troll that thought that username would be funny?

Did the real John Carmack endorse this account somewhere (Twitter, elsewhere)?

Re: Notch programming a Doom-like in Dart

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Post by Kiro »

swirlycheetah wrote: post #107

Each time there's a Ludum Dare or someone prolific livestreams themselves coding (usually Notch) I get all excited and want to do the same but I can never find a website or platform which really caters to coders. Am I alone in this? Is there somewhere? Is there actually any demand for this? Either way, I've created a quick landing page to see if anyone would actually be interested in a live streaming site specificall…

I've had this idea as well. It would really scratch my own itch so I definitely hope someone makes it!

Focusing on live coding would open up a lot of possibilities as well. How about hooking up the source code next to the stream in real time? The ability to paste snippets to the audience etc etc.

Re: Notch programming a Doom-like in Dart

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Post by Tepix »

Pxtl wrote: post #88
mythz wrote: post #79

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> What I don't get is, why he seems to like Dart so much. Dart has a good mix of fast live-reload dev workflow, great IDE editing and debugging experience as well as productive optional typing analysis and feedback. Which seems to suit @notch's GTD/experimental coding style.

Now I see why he was pushing so hard for 0x10c - it's the game he wants to play, a game of experimental live-coding AI.

You should always try to do games you want to play yourself, anyway :)

Re: Notch programming a Doom-like in Dart

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Post by swirlycheetah »

Kiro wrote: post #135
swirlycheetah wrote: post #107

Each time there's a Ludum Dare or someone prolific livestreams themselves coding (usually Notch) I get all excited and want to do the same but I can never find a website or platform which really caters to coders. Am I alone in this? Is there somewhere? Is there actually any demand for this? Either way, I've created a quick landing page to see if anyone would actually be interested in a live streaming site specificall…

I've had this idea as well. It would really scratch my own itch so I definitely hope someone makes it! Focusing on live coding would open up a lot of possibilities as well. How about hooking up the source code next to the stream in real time? The ability to paste snippets to the audience etc etc.

Yes! These are definitely the sort of features I'll be looking to build as I think they'll be key to gaining attention by offering something not available as seamlessly elsewhere.

Re: Notch programming a Doom-like in Dart

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Post by swirlycheetah »

brl wrote: post #117
swirlycheetah wrote: post #107

Each time there's a Ludum Dare or someone prolific livestreams themselves coding (usually Notch) I get all excited and want to do the same but I can never find a website or platform which really caters to coders. Am I alone in this? Is there somewhere? Is there actually any demand for this? Either way, I've created a quick landing page to see if anyone would actually be interested in a live streaming site specificall…

I would love for this to exist. I've thought about streaming on twitch before but it is apparently against their ToS to stream anything which isn't video games.

It's against their TOS to stream anything which isn't video game related, which means you're allowed to stream development of a video game but most likely not of a website or app (not sure about a video game website or app...).

I aim to make discovery and categorization much easier. It's pretty difficult right now on twitch to find someone streaming game dev, if you add into the mix only wanting to see streamers using specific languages (e.g. JS) or specific tools (e.g. Unity) then things get exponentially more difficult.

I want to make interactions more useful and clear than what you currently get with twitch. Allowing things like code snippets, markdown, line number references, live source code updates should go a long way towards this goal.

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