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How Norway has avoided the 'curse of oil'

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Re: How Norway has avoided the 'curse of oil'

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Since we're talking about how awesome Norway is, this [0] should be mentioned. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_to_roam#Norway

Yeah, so awesome. 729 whales so far, tell me again how awesome they are.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/norway-kills-...

Re: How Norway has avoided the 'curse of oil'

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Another Norwegian here. I think you are right. The high level of education also helps. But it was actually an Iraqian immigrant named Farouk al-Kasim that proposed the laws to protect Norways natural oil and gas resources. Further reading: http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/99680a04-92a0-11de-b63b-00144feabd...

Finnish, not Norwegian - I think you guys have done great. Read the story of Farouk al-Kasim a few months ago, fascinating. It does seem like a stroke of luck that the right people were there in the beginning. His nationality is both ironic and sad considering where Iraq is today

Could it be the same one: http://www.psmag.com/navigation/nature-and-technology/iraqi-... ?

Re: How Norway has avoided the 'curse of oil'

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I am jealous of Norway. Social relations in most other countries, even the "first world" ones, seem uncivilized by comparison. I always wonder how they arrived at this point - this looks like they have some magic ingredient that made their Prisoner's Dilemma converge on 'cooperate'. It must be the fjords.

Simple. I grew up in the US, but am in Norway now. I have Norwegian ancestry that comes from my grandparents. Doesn't matter whether here or there. Mix Lutheran-piety (even if Norway is quite secular) and a bit of boredom does help in the cooperation department. I am not applying this to everyone, but that is how it is.

None of this is a culture shock for me. Probably someone else has something deeper to say about it, but I knew what I was coming to when moving to Norway, in this regard.

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post #19

Since we're talking about how awesome Norway is, this [0] should be mentioned. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_to_roam#Norway

Yeah, so awesome. 729 whales so far, tell me again how awesome they are. http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/norway-kills-...

That's just sensationalist clickbait. The whale species hunted are not endangered and there is no ban on hunting these whales. There are many species of creatures which actually are and which you should spend more time caring about though. These whales are not among them.

Re: How Norway has avoided the 'curse of oil'

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post #35

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Yeah, so awesome. 729 whales so far, tell me again how awesome they are. http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/norway-kills-...

That's just sensationalist clickbait. The whale species hunted are not endangered and there is no ban on hunting these whales. There are many species of creatures which actually are and which you should spend more time caring about though. These whales are not among them.

So Norway isn't violating a whaling ban?

Re: How Norway has avoided the 'curse of oil'

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All of this is indeed correct. People here don't buy Teslas or other electronic cars because of the environment. Most do it for the economical reasons listed above [1]. However there has been a lot of discussion recently about whether these economical advantages are here to stay. Currently the electric cars are clogging up the bus/taxi lanes and the government is losing money as a result of the electric car boom we'v…

The clogging of the bus lanes because of electric cars is mostly wrong. It's been a lot in the news, but no one has proven it. They all just point to the correlation of more electric cars in the lanes. Not the correlation with more traffic in general. The clogging happens because every car wanting to get on or leave the highway has to cross the bus lane. It's easy to see for yourself.

I don't live in Oslo so I can't comment on the situation there (or anywhere else for that matter), but in Kristiansand the EVs are a very real issue in the bus lanes. Granted, the bus lanes weave in and out of the general lanes so congestion in the general lanes is the root of the problem for sure.

Re: How Norway has avoided the 'curse of oil'

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Statoil and how Norway essentially protected its future is a lot like how Australia should have dealt with the so-called mining boom. Named and outlined better, our "mining tax" could have been this. It could have protected against capital flight and essentially built national strength for all at the expense of those (especially foreign interests) looking to dig up serious swathes of our ground. Instead, we had a pre…

as an australian, i m sadden by this. Why isn't there public outrage and change? =(

Re: How Norway has avoided the 'curse of oil'

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post #35

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That's just sensationalist clickbait. The whale species hunted are not endangered and there is no ban on hunting these whales. There are many species of creatures which actually are and which you should spend more time caring about though. These whales are not among them.

So Norway isn't violating a whaling ban?

Yes. They are. However, the IWC resolution to ban whaling is not binding. It's advisory and in my opinion not based on facts but feelings.

Re: How Norway has avoided the 'curse of oil'

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post #35

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That's just sensationalist clickbait. The whale species hunted are not endangered and there is no ban on hunting these whales. There are many species of creatures which actually are and which you should spend more time caring about though. These whales are not among them.

So Norway isn't violating a whaling ban?

There is no law which bans it. Just an agreement among several countries which Norway isn't a part of as far as I know.
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