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How the Napa Earthquake Affected Bay Area Sleepers

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Re: How the Napa Earthquake Affected Bay Area Sleepers

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Post by wamatt »

camillomiller wrote: post #7

Am I the only one that's finding a bit upsetting the fact that a single overlooking identity could dispose of people's data like that? I know, I know: all the Up wearers have "enrolled" voluntarily, but I wonder if they really like to be part of a giant anonymous data science experiment. If you can do this with the users' data, you can certainly do the same for more profit-related purposes. Or maybe it's just me, som…

Did they really dispose any of the users data though? It appears they displayed a chart.

That graphic, it could be argued, is based on an entirely new data set.

So while individual data sets may been used at some point behind the scenes, it's not like those data sets are the ones being disposed.

Re: How the Napa Earthquake Affected Bay Area Sleepers

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Post by wwwwwwwwww »

wamatt wrote: post #11
camillomiller wrote: post #7

Am I the only one that's finding a bit upsetting the fact that a single overlooking identity could dispose of people's data like that? I know, I know: all the Up wearers have "enrolled" voluntarily, but I wonder if they really like to be part of a giant anonymous data science experiment. If you can do this with the users' data, you can certainly do the same for more profit-related purposes. Or maybe it's just me, som…

Did they really dispose any of the users data though? It appears they displayed a chart. That graphic, it could be argued, is based on an entirely new data set. So while individual data sets may been used at some point behind the scenes, it's not like those data sets are the ones being disposed.

the issue is that they're collecting this data in the first place.

I cant help but wonder how much it would cost to get the sleep records of a competitor of mine - or if it's not for sale, how much the data would be worth on the black market if their servers got hacked.

I have doubts this information is being kept as securely as it should be, that's where my concern lies.

Re: How the Napa Earthquake Affected Bay Area Sleepers

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Post by ghshephard »

camillomiller wrote: post #7

Am I the only one that's finding a bit upsetting the fact that a single overlooking identity could dispose of people's data like that? I know, I know: all the Up wearers have "enrolled" voluntarily, but I wonder if they really like to be part of a giant anonymous data science experiment. If you can do this with the users' data, you can certainly do the same for more profit-related purposes. Or maybe it's just me, som…

Anybody who is willing to (A) Track their personal biological information, and (B) willing to upload this information to a third party, is utterly unconcerned about an aggregate graph like this.

Your meta point, though, that people should be concerned about this type of tracking is well founded - but, honestly, I'm probably a lot more concerned about how easy it is for my cellular provider to track where I am at any given instance with my Smart Phone - (or any cell phone for that matter) - as I don't recall ever "enrolling" to provide them with my tracking information.

Re: How the Napa Earthquake Affected Bay Area Sleepers

#18

Post by antr »

The fact that Jawbone has this information on their users (yes, I know they say it's aggregated and "anonymised" data) is pretty scary to me. In my opinion, this data should only be visible to each user, and no one else. I really doubt Jawbone users are aware that their UP devices are sending data to third-parties... it feels like 21st century shackles.

Re: How the Napa Earthquake Affected Bay Area Sleepers

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Post by BillFranklin »

antr wrote: post #18

The fact that Jawbone has this information on their users (yes, I know they say it's aggregated and "anonymised" data) is pretty scary to me. In my opinion, this data should only be visible to each user, and no one else. I really doubt Jawbone users are aware that their UP devices are sending data to third-parties... it feels like 21st century shackles.

Total privacy invasion.

Re: How the Napa Earthquake Affected Bay Area Sleepers

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Post by ClassicFarris »

antr wrote: post #18

The fact that Jawbone has this information on their users (yes, I know they say it's aggregated and "anonymised" data) is pretty scary to me. In my opinion, this data should only be visible to each user, and no one else. I really doubt Jawbone users are aware that their UP devices are sending data to third-parties... it feels like 21st century shackles.

At first I thought something along these lines, then I remembered:

1. Google has "trends" when things happen, and "Earthquake" was most certainly googled near/at the time it happened. 2. The phone company has records, which many people texted/called near/at the time it happened. 3. 911 has records and calls were made near/at the time it happened.

and so on…

So there are private entities and government that have data around the event that can correlate behavior and situations, so it shouldn't seem scary to me… it's just should I have better access to the data? And if I do, what can I tell from the correlation?

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