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Intuit To Acquire Mint For $170 Million

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Re: Intuit To Acquire Mint For $170 Million

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I'm not sure I'd call $170m a great exit considering they were last valued at $140m. Generally VCs are looking for much more than a 20% ROI. I'd love to know if there were some special terms that make the VCs get more than their share here. Otherwise you'd think that either Mint was in trouble and needed this, or there was something else going on.

But the 20% ROI was only for the last round of investors who hadn't participated before not all the investors.

Re: Intuit To Acquire Mint For $170 Million

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I think it's interesting to see people's reactions here -- a good dose of "oh no Intuit" paranoia. But honestly, did anyone not see this acquisition coming? I was expecting them to have to pay more, honestly, but I think it was fairly apparent that Intuit was the obvious buyer and would do what it takes. The other odd angle to this paranoia: How big do people really think the market of "people who don't trust Intuit…

I don't think it's about not trusting Intuit with financial information. It's about believing Intuit will make a mess of mint.com ruining good and useful about that site.

Re: Intuit To Acquire Mint For $170 Million

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wow. what really impresses me is mint isn't an engineering company - they're a marketing company that put some ajax on top of yodlee. yodlee's been around for over 10 years and they never built a brand or a community like mint. mint is now #1 on my 'notes to self' when i get so focused on engineering my way to a solution i forget sometimes its' better to partner with a competitor and move on. they outsourced the hard…

I had no idea that Mint was a layer on top of another product. Can you explain this in greater detail? What is Yodlee? (I realize I'm proving your point by asking!) And what is the nature of Mint/Yodlee's relationship?

Yodlee is the service that took on the painful and expensive problem of actually building an engine that can securely store bank and brokerage passwords and use them to scrape hundreds of different financial sites.

They have a consumer front end. It's quite decent, actually, and it's free. Go to Yodlee.com and sign up. But they apparently make most of their money by (a) licensing their back end to services like Mint, and (b) serving as a kind of OEM for banks, who put up Yodlee's software rebranded as a part of the bank's website.

Re: Intuit To Acquire Mint For $170 Million

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There is a good competitor, Wesabe. Disclosure: I helped get that product launched and still have some stock. They have many of the same features, are catching up in the polish area, and have a strong data privacy angle.

There's also http://www.buxfer.com , a YC company.

Nice, I like this one better already. For one, it has more options for getting bank account information -- including doing it manually if necessary.

Re: Intuit To Acquire Mint For $170 Million

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

There is a good competitor, Wesabe. Disclosure: I helped get that product launched and still have some stock. They have many of the same features, are catching up in the polish area, and have a strong data privacy angle.

There's also http://www.buxfer.com , a YC company.

Unlike Mint, the Buxfer name is terrible. Like a combination of "busted" and "fked", not associations want with my money. The "bucks for" association does not come through online and is too clever by half. Of course I wish them well-- hopefully the Mint sale will give them a good valuation and they can upgrade the domain name.

Re: Intuit To Acquire Mint For $170 Million

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I had no idea that Mint was a layer on top of another product. Can you explain this in greater detail? What is Yodlee? (I realize I'm proving your point by asking!) And what is the nature of Mint/Yodlee's relationship?

Yodlee is the service that took on the painful and expensive problem of actually building an engine that can securely store bank and brokerage passwords and use them to scrape hundreds of different financial sites. They have a consumer front end. It's quite decent, actually, and it's free. Go to Yodlee.com and sign up. But they apparently make most of their money by (a) licensing their back end to services like Mint,…

That to me sounds like a better model than Mint. Sure Yodlee doesn't have the media buzz or "explosive" growth (Mint's growth didn't really impress me either.), but the infrastructure is extremely useful and will be around for a long time.

If Mint is doing well, Yodlee is too. If Mint fails, Yodless will still have a diverse client base to support its business.

Re: Intuit To Acquire Mint For $170 Million

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Lest we forget: http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/07/22/google-in-final-negotia... Just because Mike Arrington says something is true doesn't mean it is. I'll believe it when there's an official announcement.

Official press release from Intuit: http://about.intuit.com/about_intuit/press_room/press_releas...

Re: Intuit To Acquire Mint For $170 Million

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The banks where I live use one time pads for authentication, which makes it impossible for Mint to work.

Which country?

In Germany it seems common to mail lists of transaction authentication numbers to customers, and in the Netherlands smart card readers that read your card and generate a TAN seem standard. There are companies built around circumventing this and allowing third parties access to your account (sofortueberweisung.de, for example), but it usually is against the bank EULA.
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