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Re: Ask YC: Are there *any* startups using ASP.NET?

#81
I'm disappointed that no one here has mentioned MonoRail (www.castleproject.org). When people say they hate ASP.NET, what they're really saying is that they hate WebForms. WebForms are an abomination that should be stricken from the earth. MonoRail is a web MVC system for ASP.NET, originally based on ActionPack from RoR.

Re: Ask YC: Are there *any* startups using ASP.NET?

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Nice slogan, but fails when put to the test. C#/C++ = both OOP languages, semi-color delimited, mostly early binding, strong typing, etc. Java and JavaScript are not anywhere near as close. OOP vs prototypes, loose typing vs. strong typing, closure-functional style vs imperative style, etc.

No offense, but you clearly have not used both languages. When you consider the platform in addition to the syntax, C# is absolutely nothing like C++. C# is managed, garbage collected, bytecode-based and JITted. Saying C++ and C# are similar is like saying that technically a unicycle and an airplane are the same because they can both help you get somewhere.

Everybody knows that Java is just C++ with the sharp edges taken off. C# is Microsoft's Java-killer. C# and C++ are directly related to each other. It's the same lineage. Where do you think you get the idea of constructors, interfaces, friends, volatile methods, etc? I understand that C# is managed, but how the runtime handles memory allocation to me just isn't the deal-killer you're making it out to be. There's lot's of ways to have managed C++ code. Third-parties have been making smart memory managers for C++ for as long as I can remember.

Look -- I love C++. It's my favorite language of all, not that I'd code anything in it anymore. I've done Java, I've done Javascript (a lot of it), and I've done a lot of C#. I know the languages. C# is much closer to C++ than Java is to Javascript.

You made a cute comment. I called bs on you. Get over it. Best way to get out of a hole is to stop digging.

Re: Ask YC: Are there *any* startups using ASP.NET?

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Although I'm sure the answer is no, I'd be interested in knowing if anyone here had ever even considered using WebObjects for development.

I think the entire Apple.com store is developed in WebObjects. I have never heard of any other site using it, though.

It is used widely by Apple -- iTunes uses it as well, as does .Mac. It has a few users outside Apple, but as far as I know the number is incredibly small.

I'm curious if anyone even thinks about it anymore, its been off the radar screen for a while I think. It is, however, very powerful.

Re: Ask YC: Are there *any* startups using ASP.NET?

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I never got the speed of development argument. I can put together the ror blog example quicker with .net. I have found people trying to develop .net apps like Java ones and this adds needless overhead.

Rapid design is not necessarily sustainable design. The "speed of development" argument for RoR is about maintenance and flexibility rather than getting it done fast. (By day I'm a C# developer, by night a Ruby one. ;)

ActiveRecord and Flexible....

Re: Ask YC: Are there *any* startups using ASP.NET?

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post #86
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I think the entire Apple.com store is developed in WebObjects. I have never heard of any other site using it, though.

It is used widely by Apple -- iTunes uses it as well, as does .Mac. It has a few users outside Apple, but as far as I know the number is incredibly small. I'm curious if anyone even thinks about it anymore, its been off the radar screen for a while I think. It is, however, very powerful.

Does anyone know of ANY other users of WebObjects? I can't seem to find any, anywhere.

Re: Ask YC: Are there *any* startups using ASP.NET?

#89
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we are using .net, anyone here an expert .net user? with "nhibernate" experiance? we want to move to mono on ec2 in 2008.

have you checked out http://www.flexiscale.com/

Its like s3 and ec2 combined and they have an sla.

Its fairly easy to get it up and running and they have load balancing out features too.

Re: Ask YC: Are there *any* startups using ASP.NET?

#90
post #80

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I never got the speed of development argument. I can put together the ror blog example quicker with .net. I have found people trying to develop .net apps like Java ones and this adds needless overhead.

Rapid design is not necessarily sustainable design. The "speed of development" argument for RoR is about maintenance and flexibility rather than getting it done fast. (By day I'm a C# developer, by night a Ruby one. ;)

fair point. Wait until MVC for asp.net it looks pretty cool.

http://weblogs.asp.net/scottgu/archive/2007/10/14/asp-net-mv...

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