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Re: Komanda: IRC Client For Developers

#11
> With a ZNC bounce, a simple ircd server and 5 minutes you can avoid paying for communication and keep your company chat logs secure and on your own infrastructure.

Having watched a coworker spend a solid week getting our company's ircd setup (and this was our VP of Engineering, mind you), I've gotta call BS here. Also, until I started using irccloud[1] a few months ago, I was using ZNC, and that's no walk in the park either.

[1] https://www.irccloud.com/

Re: Komanda: IRC Client For Developers

#12

> With a ZNC bounce, a simple ircd server and 5 minutes you can avoid paying for communication and keep your company chat logs secure and on your own infrastructure. Having watched a coworker spend a solid week getting our company's ircd setup (and this was our VP of Engineering, mind you), I've gotta call BS here. Also, until I started using irccloud[1] a few months ago, I was using ZNC, and that's no walk in the pa…

It took me 1 hour to get ircd-hybrid a few weeks ago, having never done it before, I can only assume your coworker installed a lot more than I did?

Re: Komanda: IRC Client For Developers

#13

> With a ZNC bounce, a simple ircd server and 5 minutes you can avoid paying for communication and keep your company chat logs secure and on your own infrastructure. Having watched a coworker spend a solid week getting our company's ircd setup (and this was our VP of Engineering, mind you), I've gotta call BS here. Also, until I started using irccloud[1] a few months ago, I was using ZNC, and that's no walk in the pa…

Agree, ZNC is a crappy experience. The targeting seems wrong here -- if you wanted to pick one feature that developers need that casual IRC users don't, it's the ability to stay connected 24/7, because otherwise the chance of actually being online at the same time as someone who wants to talk about their project is low.

So I'd question the point of building a native client, given ZNC's shortcomings. What's so special about this client that you couldn't just run it as a web service using Node, rather than only making it available as a fat node-webkit client?

Re: Komanda: IRC Client For Developers

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post #5

Nice POC, but if a "developer" can't handle irssi.. then I have bad news for him.

I assume the the people choosing the methods of communication for startups are capable of learning to use irssi or weechat, but both of those clients take quite a bit time to learn and require significant amounts of customization to make them truly comfortable. It isn't a good business decision to require your teams to learn to use these tools.

Is IRC an acceptable medium for a company? Maybe it can be. Is it wise? Not with tools like irssi.

Re: Komanda: IRC Client For Developers

#15

> With a ZNC bounce, a simple ircd server and 5 minutes you can avoid paying for communication and keep your company chat logs secure and on your own infrastructure. Having watched a coworker spend a solid week getting our company's ircd setup (and this was our VP of Engineering, mind you), I've gotta call BS here. Also, until I started using irccloud[1] a few months ago, I was using ZNC, and that's no walk in the pa…

> Having watched a coworker spend a solid week getting our company's ircd setup (and this was our VP of Engineering, mind you), I've gotta call BS here.

I've gotta call BS on your story. Unless he was learning Unix from scratch, it shouldn't take more than a couple hours to setup an ircd.

Re: Komanda: IRC Client For Developers

#16
I keep an IRC client (Colloquy for OSX) open everyday when I get home from work. However, it crashes a few times a day and I think it's about time to switch. Is this a suitable replacement for Colloquy? Any recommendations on a better IRC client to use, web-based or OSX, are much appreciated. Thanks!

Re: Komanda: IRC Client For Developers

#17

> With a ZNC bounce, a simple ircd server and 5 minutes you can avoid paying for communication and keep your company chat logs secure and on your own infrastructure. Having watched a coworker spend a solid week getting our company's ircd setup (and this was our VP of Engineering, mind you), I've gotta call BS here. Also, until I started using irccloud[1] a few months ago, I was using ZNC, and that's no walk in the pa…

I can only assume your coworker had quite an elaborate setup, as most ircds (e.g., ircu, charybdis, ircd-hybrid) take an hour, tops, to configure and get running.

Re: Komanda: IRC Client For Developers

#18

I keep an IRC client (Colloquy for OSX) open everyday when I get home from work. However, it crashes a few times a day and I think it's about time to switch. Is this a suitable replacement for Colloquy? Any recommendations on a better IRC client to use, web-based or OSX, are much appreciated. Thanks!

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Re: Komanda: IRC Client For Developers

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post #14
post #5

Nice POC, but if a "developer" can't handle irssi.. then I have bad news for him.

I assume the the people choosing the methods of communication for startups are capable of learning to use irssi or weechat, but both of those clients take quite a bit time to learn and require significant amounts of customization to make them truly comfortable. It isn't a good business decision to require your teams to learn to use these tools. Is IRC an acceptable medium for a company? Maybe it can be. Is it wise? N…

A big part of the appeal for IRC to me is the not so low barrier to entry with tools like irrsi

Re: Komanda: IRC Client For Developers

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post #19
post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I assume the the people choosing the methods of communication for startups are capable of learning to use irssi or weechat, but both of those clients take quite a bit time to learn and require significant amounts of customization to make them truly comfortable. It isn't a good business decision to require your teams to learn to use these tools. Is IRC an acceptable medium for a company? Maybe it can be. Is it wise? N…

A big part of the appeal for IRC to me is the not so low barrier to entry with tools like irrsi

Which is wonderful if you're an old hat who enjoys having new people get frustrated and leave before they have a chance to contribute to the ecosystem.
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