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Re: Komanda: IRC Client For Developers

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Post by akerl_ »

Is this an IRC client or an IRC server?

Looking at the code, it appears to be a client, but in that case why does the site talk about it providing support for "Channels, Users, Permission, Private, Public and much more", why does it claim it makes my channel contents more secure (under "Secure Your Logs"), and why does it talk about setting up an IRCd (" With a ZNC bounce, a simple ircd server and 5 minutes you can avoid paying for communication and keep your company chat logs secure and on your own infrastructure.").

If it's a server, why is how to set it up not described?

Not sure if OP is actually part of the dev team, or just somebody who found the site, but a word to the devs: your website should clarify which of the above you are providing. If it's a client, the site shouldn't talk about the benefits I'd get running my own IRCd (security of communication, IRCd features like channel modes and permissions, or lower cost). If you are intending for folks to run their own IRCd, the site needs to have information on where that software lives and how to set it up, and why I'd want to do that instead of just making a channel on OFTC or Freenode or similar.

Re: Komanda: IRC Client For Developers

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Post by msturgill »

akerl_ wrote: post #2

Is this an IRC client or an IRC server? Looking at the code, it appears to be a client, but in that case why does the site talk about it providing support for "Channels, Users, Permission, Private, Public and much more", why does it claim it makes my channel contents more secure (under "Secure Your Logs"), and why does it talk about setting up an IRCd (" With a ZNC bounce, a simple ircd server and 5 minutes you can a…

I think that description is pitching it as a tool for small businesses or development teams (that don't already know about ZNC, HexChat, irssi, weechat, freenode, etc).

Re: Komanda: IRC Client For Developers

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Post by leishulang »

msturgill wrote: post #3
akerl_ wrote: post #2

Is this an IRC client or an IRC server? Looking at the code, it appears to be a client, but in that case why does the site talk about it providing support for "Channels, Users, Permission, Private, Public and much more", why does it claim it makes my channel contents more secure (under "Secure Your Logs"), and why does it talk about setting up an IRCd (" With a ZNC bounce, a simple ircd server and 5 minutes you can a…

I think that description is pitching it as a tool for small businesses or development teams (that don't already know about ZNC, HexChat, irssi, weechat, freenode, etc).

I was playing with all those, then I found kiwiirc

Re: Komanda: IRC Client For Developers

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Post by akerl_ »

msturgill wrote: post #3
akerl_ wrote: post #2

Is this an IRC client or an IRC server? Looking at the code, it appears to be a client, but in that case why does the site talk about it providing support for "Channels, Users, Permission, Private, Public and much more", why does it claim it makes my channel contents more secure (under "Secure Your Logs"), and why does it talk about setting up an IRCd (" With a ZNC bounce, a simple ircd server and 5 minutes you can a…

I think that description is pitching it as a tool for small businesses or development teams (that don't already know about ZNC, HexChat, irssi, weechat, freenode, etc).

If that's the case, it really needs some strong docs to walk somebody setting it up for their small business through setting up an IRCd.

Re: Komanda: IRC Client For Developers

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Post by akerl_ »

leishulang wrote: post #4
msturgill wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think that description is pitching it as a tool for small businesses or development teams (that don't already know about ZNC, HexChat, irssi, weechat, freenode, etc).

I was playing with all those, then I found kiwiirc

kiwiirc has it's own set of downsides. Primarily, the lack of registration requirement makes it a haven for spammers and other network attacks and their practice of putting all users onto a limited number of IPv4 addresses makes it nearly impossible to block the abuse without affecting legitimate users.

Re: Komanda: IRC Client For Developers

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Post by cheez »

1. If I wanted a customizable IRC client for developers, I'd use ERC in Emacs. Note: I still haven't figured out how to prefer it over XChat. I think that's what I'll be doing tonight.

2. Part of the justification for the client seems to be "People are charging for this, just get it for free!!!" That's terrible logic. Professionals pay for their tools if the best tool for the job is commercial.

Re: Komanda: IRC Client For Developers

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Post by nextos »

cheez wrote: post #8

1. If I wanted a customizable IRC client for developers, I'd use ERC in Emacs. Note: I still haven't figured out how to prefer it over XChat. I think that's what I'll be doing tonight. 2. Part of the justification for the client seems to be "People are charging for this, just get it for free!!!" That's terrible logic. Professionals pay for their tools if the best tool for the job is commercial.

Erc is quite good. I've never bothered installing irssi or weechat for my sporadic visits to OS freenode channels.

Perhaps some IRC users can pop up and illustrate us a bit about their client of choice.

Re: Komanda: IRC Client For Developers

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Post by innocenat »

I think this is aimed to compete with IRCcloud solution, which cost around $5/month/user. IRCcloud features private IRC server, bouncer, and gist/picture/etc viewer in its (web-based) client. This is why the front page is very confusing, as right now this Komanda (probably) is client-only.
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