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Popular and Free, SoundCloud Is Now Ready for Ads

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Re: Popular and Free, SoundCloud Is Now Ready for Ads

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Soundcloud already has a pro plan which I see a lot of artists using. Why do they need ads? Do you they not already make enough money? It's not the specifics of what is being proposed here that bothers me. But something about this makes me feel that this will be soundclouds downfall. I don't want to be soundclouds product. I want soundcloud to be the product. I would happily pay for their service (providing they don'…

>Why do they need ads? Do you they not already make enough money?

last I checked, they were a for-profit business. If they believe they can make more money (and thus: profits) by playing ads, that's what they do.

As a for-profit business, it's totally within their rights to gain as much money as they can and they have zero obligations to only have the best of the end-users in mind.

Of course, as ads become more and more intrusive, people might switch to a competitor with fewer/no ads, or they might convert to paid accounts, but assessing that risk, too, is Soundcloud's problem.

My guess is that they feel they are popular enough now to be able to add ads and still be able to keep their user base because Soundcloud is where the artists are (which happened because they had a huge audience, mostly because they had no ads up to now)

It's the natural progression of things.

Re: Popular and Free, SoundCloud Is Now Ready for Ads

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post #8

I'm not sure this model will work like it did with Youtube. You don't put Youtube on in the background/at a party while friends are over. You sit down and watch a video (hence you're willing to sit through an advertisement). Music streaming that is broken up by advertisements is why people dislike radio and are moving to online services. The reason artists like Soundcloud is it gives a way to distribute music directl…

> You don't put Youtube on in the background/at a party while friends are over

Yes you do and is the only reason I started using AdBlock. I was willing to put up with everything the internet would throw at me. But then I visited the US once and Youtube had pre-roll ads and mid-playlist ads and whatnot.

Installed adblock immediately after it happened the first time. Now the whole internet doesn't have ads. Good job Youtube.

Re: Popular and Free, SoundCloud Is Now Ready for Ads

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post #8

I'm not sure this model will work like it did with Youtube. You don't put Youtube on in the background/at a party while friends are over. You sit down and watch a video (hence you're willing to sit through an advertisement). Music streaming that is broken up by advertisements is why people dislike radio and are moving to online services. The reason artists like Soundcloud is it gives a way to distribute music directl…

Loads of people put Youtube on the background, and I think that the main reason people are moving to online services is because you can choose what you're listening to (and not hear the same 10 songs over and over again).

I think most people are accepting of ads, especially for a free service. There's always the vocal minority, but free is free.

Re: Popular and Free, SoundCloud Is Now Ready for Ads

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post #8

I'm not sure this model will work like it did with Youtube. You don't put Youtube on in the background/at a party while friends are over. You sit down and watch a video (hence you're willing to sit through an advertisement). Music streaming that is broken up by advertisements is why people dislike radio and are moving to online services. The reason artists like Soundcloud is it gives a way to distribute music directl…

Oh wow, what an insightful suggestion!

Re: Popular and Free, SoundCloud Is Now Ready for Ads

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post #8

I'm not sure this model will work like it did with Youtube. You don't put Youtube on in the background/at a party while friends are over. You sit down and watch a video (hence you're willing to sit through an advertisement). Music streaming that is broken up by advertisements is why people dislike radio and are moving to online services. The reason artists like Soundcloud is it gives a way to distribute music directl…

> I'd instead suggest for a premium subscription for artists that gives them enhanced tools to monitor/distribute/track/etc. their music on the platform

They are already doing that.

Re: Popular and Free, SoundCloud Is Now Ready for Ads

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I've just spent £35 to renew my pro subscription. If this means people are less likely to come and listen to my music, being bombarded with adverts on a page that I have paid for, I will be most displeased. I'll have to stop wearing my soundcloud tshirt to raves for a start, or everyone will be looking at me like like I'm about to sell them something.

Bandcamp, anyone?

Re: Popular and Free, SoundCloud Is Now Ready for Ads

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I've just spent £35 to renew my pro subscription. If this means people are less likely to come and listen to my music, being bombarded with adverts on a page that I have paid for, I will be most displeased. I'll have to stop wearing my soundcloud tshirt to raves for a start, or everyone will be looking at me like like I'm about to sell them something. Bandcamp, anyone?

Hey there, I work at SoundCloud. One thing that might not be totally clear in our messaging about this right now is that ads will only play against tracks premier members have chosen to monetise. If you aren't monetising your tracks, your listeners won't be affected.

Re: Popular and Free, SoundCloud Is Now Ready for Ads

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post #18

I've just spent £35 to renew my pro subscription. If this means people are less likely to come and listen to my music, being bombarded with adverts on a page that I have paid for, I will be most displeased. I'll have to stop wearing my soundcloud tshirt to raves for a start, or everyone will be looking at me like like I'm about to sell them something. Bandcamp, anyone?

Hey there, I work at SoundCloud. One thing that might not be totally clear in our messaging about this right now is that ads will only play against tracks premier members have chosen to monetise. If you aren't monetising your tracks, your listeners won't be affected.

This seems fair. What about on the users stream page though?

Also, what is a "premier track?"

Re: Popular and Free, SoundCloud Is Now Ready for Ads

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post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hey there, I work at SoundCloud. One thing that might not be totally clear in our messaging about this right now is that ads will only play against tracks premier members have chosen to monetise. If you aren't monetising your tracks, your listeners won't be affected.

This seems fair. What about on the users stream page though? Also, what is a "premier track?"

A premier track is a track uploaded and owned by a SoundCloud member who is part of the premier program. It can be monetised (ads can play in front of it) or not. The premier tier is currently invite-only but we want to open it up to more artists as fast as we can.

If a user (currently US only) is listening to their stream and they start playing a track a premier member has decided to monetise an ad will play in front of it. There are some other factors that will influence ad frequency obviously, but that is the general behaviour.

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