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Triple-E Ship Leaves Port With World Record Load

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Re: Triple-E Ship Leaves Port With World Record Load

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Several years ago I traveled from Rio De Janeiro to Capetown on a freighter (although not nearly as large as this Triple-E ship!) There are some ships that still offer paid passage and staying on board of one of these enormous ships, manned by just a small crew, is an amazing experience. I got to visit all the areas of the ship, could wander about during the day, hung out on the bridge with the night watch, visited t…

This sounds super cool, how do you arrange something like that?

A variety of websites can do it. See http://www.seaplus.com/mainmenu.php and/or search "freighter travel".

It costs more than you might think, partly because meals are included.

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What a great time to introduce you to http://www.cargolaw.com/gallery.html This site has lots of amazing pictures if you can get past the Geocities design. Like this: http://www.cargolaw.com/2012nightmare_bai_chay_bri.html

seems like losing a few at sea is nothing compare to the fire : http://www.cargolaw.com/2006nightmare_hyundai_for2.html How would you put out such a fire from under/inside the stacks of the containers? (and given the content of the containers with consumer goods - plastic, plastic and more plastic ... ) What are the limits on the size of a ship? Width of Panama/Suez channels? Lets say they would build by 2019 (they p…

Inert gas, if you can get it. I'm not sure about the legalities of Halon these days, but ordinary CO2 would work, and in compressed cylinders you can store quite a lot of it in a small space. Given that we're assuming there's burning plastic you'd hope any firefighters are using respirators already, so just flood the area with CO2, deprive the fire of oxygen and there you go. CO2 is heavier than air so would naturally fill the ship, though whether you could avoid getting oxygen to the other levels I don't know. Maybe put a big tarp over the top of the ship? :P.

Re: Triple-E Ship Leaves Port With World Record Load

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It's currently in the South China Sea http://www.marinetraffic.com/en/ais/home/centerx:114.6631/ce... http://www.marinetraffic.com/en/ais/details/ships/9619921/ve...

That's a really high quality site for a community effort.

Now, I don't have to wonder about all the ships sailing on the Hudson river.

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This is the primary reason the catamaran I'm building has a titanium superstructure. I refuse to let an orphaned cargo container floating in the Pacific be my undoing on a circumnavigation.

When you strike a container at speed all bets are off, regardless of what material your boat is made of. You're in a catamaran, at least you have two hulls rather than just one. And it would appear that the part that is underwater is the most important bit when it comes to striking containers so I'm not sure why you think a titanium superstructure will help you if there is a gaping hole in your hull.

Exactly. Keep an eye on your scanning instruments and make sure you have a raft or two ready.

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This sounds super cool, how do you arrange something like that?

A variety of websites can do it. See http://www.seaplus.com/mainmenu.php and/or search "freighter travel". It costs more than you might think, partly because meals are included.

That's a fascinating starting point, thank you!

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I've heard that for things like this you start at $1m per finished minute, and then go from there. This is about 12 minutes long, has a fairly well known British Actor narrating, a well known film director, involved lots of world travel and various types of specialist equipment operators, lighting and sound folks. I wouldn't think you'd get away from this for anything under $20m, and wouldn't be shocked to hear it wa…

I've worked on feature film (90 or more minutes) productions that with a full crew cost <$400,000 to create. $20m for an advertisement is a gross overestimate. I would be shocked if it cost more than $100k to make this video.

I'm sure it cost them at least $50 to license that cheesy score.

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I've heard that for things like this you start at $1m per finished minute, and then go from there. This is about 12 minutes long, has a fairly well known British Actor narrating, a well known film director, involved lots of world travel and various types of specialist equipment operators, lighting and sound folks. I wouldn't think you'd get away from this for anything under $20m, and wouldn't be shocked to hear it wa…

I've worked on feature film (90 or more minutes) productions that with a full crew cost <$400,000 to create. $20m for an advertisement is a gross overestimate. I would be shocked if it cost more than $100k to make this video.

Many helicopter/offshore shots in exotic locations in that feature film?

Re: Triple-E Ship Leaves Port With World Record Load

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When you strike a container at speed all bets are off, regardless of what material your boat is made of. You're in a catamaran, at least you have two hulls rather than just one. And it would appear that the part that is underwater is the most important bit when it comes to striking containers so I'm not sure why you think a titanium superstructure will help you if there is a gaping hole in your hull.

Exactly. Keep an eye on your scanning instruments and make sure you have a raft or two ready.

Maybe he expects to be hit from above by the container?

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Exactly. Keep an eye on your scanning instruments and make sure you have a raft or two ready.

Maybe he expects to be hit from above by the container?

No, I expect to hit roughly head on. A container won't show up on radar, and its hard to detect something that near the surface using any sort of transducer/depth measurement device.

Titanium is non-reactive/corrosive, lightweight, and extremely durable. I'm extremely confident of the design, ensuring survivability of a container encounter, even at 12-15 knots.

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This is the primary reason the catamaran I'm building has a titanium superstructure. I refuse to let an orphaned cargo container floating in the Pacific be my undoing on a circumnavigation.

When you strike a container at speed all bets are off, regardless of what material your boat is made of. You're in a catamaran, at least you have two hulls rather than just one. And it would appear that the part that is underwater is the most important bit when it comes to striking containers so I'm not sure why you think a titanium superstructure will help you if there is a gaping hole in your hull.

A titanium hull failure is superior to a fiberglass or wood hull failure. Even if I hit a container at speed, the worst scenario is the structure deforming, versus fiberglass failure scenarios.
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