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Delivery Startups Are Back Like It’s 1999

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Re: Delivery Startups Are Back Like It’s 1999

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Keep telling yourself that. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socio-economic_mobility_in_the_...

The bay area has the greatest social mobility in the US: http://www.equality-of-opportunity.org/

I stand corrected - I am from the midwest and didn't realize SF was so much higher than the US average in terms of socio-economic mobility.

Re: Delivery Startups Are Back Like It’s 1999

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Strategy for consumers: Use Instacart until they run out of investors' money or raise their prices. Then use competitor when they are funded and repeat taking advantage of loss making enterprises. Once bubble is popped, go to the store yourself.

Assuming the local store still exists by then.

As far as I understand, those delivery services still do all their shopping locally, to avoid renting warehouses and dealing with suppliers. So basically - a courier gets the order, goes to a nearest shop, buys all grocery, and delivers it. If anything, the local shops win in this scenario.

Re: Delivery Startups Are Back Like It’s 1999

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I remember being at a Giants game at Pacbell (now AT&T) Park back in 2001. Webvan had just gone bankrupt, yet the entire ballpark was still covered with Webvan ads, even the cup holders. Another major ballpark advertiser at the time was Enron, and that scandal was just breaking. I remember thinking that the Giants ad sales staff might have to put in a few extra hours of work that week. If and when I see a DoorDash cup holder at AT&T, that will be my canary in the coalmine telling me that the new bubble is about to pop.

Go Giants!

Re: Delivery Startups Are Back Like It’s 1999

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“The complicated part is not getting customers, it’s getting the product to the customers,” said Paulo Lerner, Rewinery’s founder, who fled San Francisco for Brazil. “If they charge a lot, it loses the appeal. If they charge less, it has a lot of appeal, but at the same time, they are running on losses.”

In other words: the revenue up-and-to-the-right graph (the fetish of the moment) is misleading. There's a broad class of crappy businesses that can easily generate revenue, but will never be able to generate profit.

We're back to the 1999 strategy of giving away dollars for 95 cents, and making up the difference on volume.

Re: Delivery Startups Are Back Like It’s 1999

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But there's one huge difference between 1999 and 2014 - mobile phones. And people, everyone, seems much more accepting of digital delivery services. Back then it was kind of a novelty. That being said I think the ones that will be most successful will put the burden of service and delivery on a 3rd party.

You should say "smart phones" instead of "mobile phones". The Nokia 3210, which came out in 1999 and was bought 160 million times, has similar dimensions (same height and smaller width) to the iPhone5, and although it is more than 2x as thick as the iPhone 5, the smallest model was still less than an 7/10 of an inch thick. I would guess that it also has better battery life than any smart phone sold today.

There were mobile devices in 1999-2000 such as the Palm devices that were easily capable of running a network stack, but what really changed in the last 15 years is the deployment, improvement, and adoption of wireless data services - We had to wait for the network to catch up.
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