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Re: Lime Text: Open Source Sublime Text clone

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Post by bloke_zero »

frou_dh wrote: post #24
sqren wrote: post #19

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I completely agree with what you say. Sublime is awesome and I don't mind paying money for closed-source software. What I do mind is, that the development seems to have stopped, and being closed-source nobody can move it forward but the original maintainer. It once again brings attention to the most important "bus factor" [0] [0] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bus_factor

The funny thing being that the impetus for a lot of people moving to Sublime in the first place was that happening to TextMate 1.

I'm pretty happy with TextMate 2 at this point - pretty regular updates, mature eco system, continuous improvement and its open source.

Re: Lime Text: Open Source Sublime Text clone

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Post by m_mueller »

easytiger wrote: post #38
m_mueller wrote: post #27

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Ok that's interesting. The following features are also crucial to me: * Tree view * Split window with synchronized views when showing the same file * Regex search over file or selection, results can be turned into multicursors (!) * Regex search over multiple files or directories * Multicursors at each line for a selection * Auto-update of views when file underneath changes (editor should ask what to do in case of ed…

Interesting, I guess it is just an editing preference. Multiple cursors i associate with mouse use (I know it isn't the same but I bet most people use the mouse with them). I consider touching the mouse dangerous for myself and for productivity. > Tree View This i fully understand (and exisits in emacs) but I think not necessary either for my workflow. A treeview does already exist in a format called folders and file…

Multicursors are one of these things that you don't understand the use for, until you start using them, at which point you can never go back. In order to understand what they do, just have a look at all six gifs on this page: http://www.sublimetext.com/.

And sorry, but if you don't know about multicursors, I'm not sure whether you get what I mean with "Regex search over file or selection, results can be turned into multicursors". Just have a look at the animations in above URL. Can emacs do that without turning this into a big modding project?

Re: Lime Text: Open Source Sublime Text clone

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Post by jbrooksuk »

jokoon wrote: post #42
jbrooksuk wrote: post #36

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Have you downloaded the "forever-free" trial?

Yes, I use that, but I'd also love to buy just for the sake of it. But 60 is a lot. I guess he just targets developer who are constantly using an editor instead, increasing the price and making that bet. The pop up message must be quite unnerving for heavy users.

$60 for a tool that you'd probably use every day? Well worth it in my opinion.

Re: Lime Text: Open Source Sublime Text clone

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Post by m_mueller »

hiker wrote: post #48
m_mueller wrote: post #27

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Ok that's interesting. The following features are also crucial to me: * Tree view * Split window with synchronized views when showing the same file * Regex search over file or selection, results can be turned into multicursors (!) * Regex search over multiple files or directories * Multicursors at each line for a selection * Auto-update of views when file underneath changes (editor should ask what to do in case of ed…

As an active Emacs user, I can confirm the answer of all of the above is "yes". Heck, it even has a Tetris and a Psychiatrist built in. My .emacs is portable and I use it across Linux, OS X and Windows. Of course it's based on my personal preferences (vim emulation anyone?) and I seldom see people sharing the same config except maybe Bozhidar's Emacs prelude https://github.com/bbatsov/prelude

What about

Regex search over file or selection, results can be turned into multicursors (!)

? GP described 'require multicursors', which I presume is an emacs package. Does it come with regex search integration?

Re: Lime Text: Open Source Sublime Text clone

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Post by nicholassmith »

jokoon wrote: post #45
phpnode wrote: post #37

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60 bucks is less than an hour's pay for many developers. We're talking about a tool that gets used for > 8hrs/day in many cases. Other industries would DREAM of having tools this cheap! * edited to remove the word "most" which seems to be upsetting some people.

Yes he might target developers who make an everyday use of it, I just use a C++ IDE. I still don't understand what are those features though. Isn't it just good for web/python development ?

No, I use it for C++ development as well as Python and Ruby and I think it's excellent. If I'm using something like Qt or Obj-C I use something with an IDE (mostly for the UI tools), but for everything else it's excellent.

Re: Lime Text: Open Source Sublime Text clone

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Post by nicholassmith »

coldtea wrote: post #39
smt88 wrote: post #17

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Sublime is dead. No one is actively developing it. There's a rich history of piggybacking on dead software, and I (and many others) clicked this link because of that piggybacking. I completely support and admire someone who is trying to further the development of Sublime without having the original code base.

> Sublime is dead. No one is actively developing it. No one has to "actively develop it". It's a fully capable editor. It has a great plugin framework and ecosystem. Pending some incompatible OS change, I can use it for the next 30 years (using ST-3 from the early alphas, and it has been rock solid). For comparison, I also use Vim, and it's not like I use any "new features" in Vim or anything. The most "current" feat…

"No one has to "actively develop it". It's a fully capable editor."

People seem to forget this quite quickly, but what else is needed in ST3 right now? Very little in my day-to-day experience that isn't either solved via a plugin, or mostly trivial. I'd prefer a much more stable piece of software rather than one that's having upgrades thrown at it every month to maintain an 'actively developed' project status.

Re: Lime Text: Open Source Sublime Text clone

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Post by lclarkmichalek »

m_mueller wrote: post #54
hiker wrote: post #48

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As an active Emacs user, I can confirm the answer of all of the above is "yes". Heck, it even has a Tetris and a Psychiatrist built in. My .emacs is portable and I use it across Linux, OS X and Windows. Of course it's based on my personal preferences (vim emulation anyone?) and I seldom see people sharing the same config except maybe Bozhidar's Emacs prelude https://github.com/bbatsov/prelude

What about Regex search over file or selection, results can be turned into multicursors (!) ? GP described 'require multicursors', which I presume is an emacs package. Does it come with regex search integration?

It probably doesn't, but I would be very highly surprised if you couldn't compose the actions together with a couple lines of lisp

Re: Lime Text: Open Source Sublime Text clone

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Post by 3rd3 »

fyolnish wrote: post #15
christiangenco wrote: post #3

Oh goodness, I'm sorry, but I can't get past that chunky window toolbar. I use editors like sublime instead of an IDE so my screen real estate isn't taken up by buttons to leave as much room as possible for my code. If that isn't right, there must be untold frustrations in the path of using this editor for me that I don't care to discover.

That's iTerm

http://i.imgur.com/Maj7m7L.png

Re: Lime Text: Open Source Sublime Text clone

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Post by areski »

If there is One project where a lot of developers would want to hack is definitely their own editor! It's a big dilemma, I love the idea of seeing an open alternative but I also love the possibility to support developers working on what they love!

One problem that raise here is that we haven't find a way to ensure that open source projects can bring an incomes to their maintainers, even if there is many users.

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