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Re: Lime Text: Open Source Sublime Text clone

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Post by dhruvbhatia »

smt88 wrote: post #17
eps wrote: post #7

I don't like how it shamelessly piggybacks on Sublime's reputation by using its name left and right and doesn't hesitate to knock it down by calling itself a "successor". This comes across as disrespectful at least.

Sublime is dead. No one is actively developing it. There's a rich history of piggybacking on dead software, and I (and many others) clicked this link because of that piggybacking. I completely support and admire someone who is trying to further the development of Sublime without having the original code base.

> Sublime is dead. No one is actively developing it.

This isn't correct, at least according to the author. This was posted in the ST forum on Mar. 18, 2014 [1]:

"From the Sublime office: We are not selling to Github, we are not stopping development of Sublime. As noted by another poster, this is effectively a one man band (I'm here to answer sales questions, process your refunds and get the mail so Jon doesn't have to). The past few months of silence on the development front have been a combination of boring back end work (taxes, new payment platform) as well as a break for the man driving this whole operation. No, we don't currently have a loud internet presence, which is can be an understandable cause for concern-something we intend to address once we move into the production version of 3. There is a vision for continued growth and development, there is momentum behind Sublime Text; it is not dead, just slow.

I'm happy to field any specific questions you might have about the Sublime's future: sales@sublimetext.com."

[1]: https://www.sublimetext.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=15477&...

Re: Lime Text: Open Source Sublime Text clone

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Post by frou_dh »

sqren wrote: post #19
bubblicious wrote: post #11

If there is one app I've always been thrilled to pay for, it's Sublime Text. I've purchased and renewed the licence ever since v1 came out. While it may not be open sourced, you can see it was created with a lot of love for code and openness. Today there are thousands of amazing plugins to enhance it. And though I fully respect the open source initiative, I, for once, am very happy to support / give some money to a p…

I completely agree with what you say. Sublime is awesome and I don't mind paying money for closed-source software. What I do mind is, that the development seems to have stopped, and being closed-source nobody can move it forward but the original maintainer. It once again brings attention to the most important "bus factor" [0] [0] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bus_factor

The funny thing being that the impetus for a lot of people moving to Sublime in the first place was that happening to TextMate 1.

Re: Lime Text: Open Source Sublime Text clone

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Post by unicornporn »

christiangenco wrote: post #3

Oh goodness, I'm sorry, but I can't get past that chunky window toolbar. I use editors like sublime instead of an IDE so my screen real estate isn't taken up by buttons to leave as much room as possible for my code. If that isn't right, there must be untold frustrations in the path of using this editor for me that I don't care to discover.

In many (most?) OS X applications you can right click the toolbar and chose "Use Small Size". Perhaps so in this app too...

Re: Lime Text: Open Source Sublime Text clone

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Post by m_mueller »

vbsteven wrote: post #16
m_mueller wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If parent is like me: I like to use a pointer device, particularly together with sublimes multicursor implementation. See some entries that you want to edit simultaneously, but their pattern is complex to express? In emacs I would just give up and do it manually, in Sublime I can hold down Command, click each position and then apply any edit command. Happens very often in my kind of work.

I got exactly the same behaviour in emacs by installing the 'multiple-cursors package and adding the following to my .emacs file (require 'multiple-cursors) (global-unset-key (kbd "M- ")) (global-set-key (kbd "M- ") 'mc/add-cursor-on-click)

Ok that's interesting. The following features are also crucial to me:

* Tree view

* Split window with synchronized views when showing the same file

* Regex search over file or selection, results can be turned into multicursors (!)

* Regex search over multiple files or directories

* Multicursors at each line for a selection

* Auto-update of views when file underneath changes (editor should ask what to do in case of edits)

I'm sure all of this can be achieved with Emacs - my question is: How long will it take me to set up? Will the result be portable, e.g. can I copy some config file unto any POSIX machine and use it from there in an ssh terminal? That last point would be the main draw for me on why to switch to Emacs, since with Sublime I have to mount the drives (with Expandrive) which works well for the essential things, however there are details like the treeview not updating in that case.

Re: Lime Text: Open Source Sublime Text clone

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Post by erikb »

bubblicious wrote: post #11

If there is one app I've always been thrilled to pay for, it's Sublime Text. I've purchased and renewed the licence ever since v1 came out. While it may not be open sourced, you can see it was created with a lot of love for code and openness. Today there are thousands of amazing plugins to enhance it. And though I fully respect the open source initiative, I, for once, am very happy to support / give some money to a p…

I suppose being open source doesn't stop you from giving user licenses for money, though. True, people can just use your program by violating your license. From coder to coder that is way less likely than, for instance, between the movie industry and the movie viewers, though. And being open source, even the violating users might add value to your product by fixing bugs and adding features.

Re: Lime Text: Open Source Sublime Text clone

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Post by felixrabe »

sqren wrote: post #19
bubblicious wrote: post #11

If there is one app I've always been thrilled to pay for, it's Sublime Text. I've purchased and renewed the licence ever since v1 came out. While it may not be open sourced, you can see it was created with a lot of love for code and openness. Today there are thousands of amazing plugins to enhance it. And though I fully respect the open source initiative, I, for once, am very happy to support / give some money to a p…

I completely agree with what you say. Sublime is awesome and I don't mind paying money for closed-source software. What I do mind is, that the development seems to have stopped, and being closed-source nobody can move it forward but the original maintainer. It once again brings attention to the most important "bus factor" [0] [0] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bus_factor

Development has not stopped, there were some distractions to the developer. For the July 2014 status update, see http://www.sublimetext.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=16517

Re: Lime Text: Open Source Sublime Text clone

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Post by erikb »

randunel wrote: post #23

Am I the only one who immediately wondered how Atom was doing when seeing this article? :D

Yes, me too. The last time I looked it was only for Mac users, which is totally wrong for a HTML based editor. Didn't mind looking a second time (until I hear some great buzz, I guess).

I'm also curious about this vim reimplementation some guys are working on. I'll go and check that out right now!

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