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Re: The new land of opportunity for immigrants is Germany

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Post by kamakazizuru »

trentmb wrote: post #40
emsy wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'd say it's possible. I had colleagues with no grasp of the German language, minor English skills and no degree because the IT Industry in Germany is terribly hungry for employees. This was in Stuttgart (southwest), but I assume it's the same accross the country.

Sorry for the dumb question, but how would I find these employers? I did study four years of German in highschool (so I can hold a conversation with a toddler. Maybe) and have a degree in mathematics from UIUC.

look on monster.de for english speaking jobs, or thelocal.de - there are also facebook groups for startups in berlin who are looking to hire. Your best bet is to be here and look for something though - the odds of getting hired sitting in the US are slim to none unless you are really highly qualified / have tonnes of experience. If you're looking to get hired in tech get in touch.

Re: The new land of opportunity for immigrants is Germany

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Post by k__ »

emsy wrote: post #27
freehunter wrote: post #7

What is the chance of moving to Germany from the US without a college degree, but rather with five years industry experience and a handful of certifications, plus a good grasp of the German language? Would companies generally go for that, or would German authorities allow that?

I'd say it's possible. I had colleagues with no grasp of the German language, minor English skills and no degree because the IT Industry in Germany is terribly hungry for employees. This was in Stuttgart (southwest), but I assume it's the same accross the country.

I worked for a software company who got itself a few foreign engineers for a few years, but let all of them go, because the language barrier just was too much of a problem, even for high skilled people.

They produced high quality software (fast, low on bugs, etc), but it just didn't do what has been intended.

Re: The new land of opportunity for immigrants is Germany

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Post by sapiogram »

ExpiredLink wrote: post #39

"Immigrants" from Italy and Spain? Is the author joking or just ignorant? People within the EU can live and work wherever they want. No "immigration procedure" necessary. Just pack your things and go.

> immigrant, noun.

> 1. A person who leaves one country to settle permanently in another.

I think he knows exactly what "immigrants" means.

Re: The new land of opportunity for immigrants is Germany

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Post by jiggy2011 »

rayiner wrote: post #48
arethuza wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We get a lot of daft Muslim scare stories in some parts of the press here in the UK, "sharia law" being one of the favourites - this article in the Guardian tries to point out the reality: http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/may/12/muslim-scare-st... On closer inspection, it is clear sharia courts only have jurisdiction on civil matters and everyone must opt in to a sharia court. They only have an advisory capacity…

The judgments of arbitration proceedings, etc, are enforceable in regular courts. Its not purely independent of the state.

The problem with these stories tends to be that some native people in the UK don't really seem to understand the legal system and use these headlines to come to the conclusion that muslims aren't subject to UK criminal law, which is obviously false. Thus the tabloids like to print them because they generate outrage.

Re: The new land of opportunity for immigrants is Germany

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Post by Apocryphon »

mobiplayer wrote: post #4

I don't have much information about Germany apart from a couple one-week holidays, so I can't really comment on those. On the other hand, I've moved to Britain 2 years ago (with a secured job that I'm just leaving for a new one this week) and in my experience this isn't far away from "The Land of Opportunity". The Greater London area and, to some extent, the M4 corridor is just the paradise for skilled IT workers. He…

Isn't the London real estate market as pricy as S.F., though?

Re: The new land of opportunity for immigrants is Germany

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Post by l33tbro »

idlewords wrote: post #53

So immigrant-friendly that sometimes it even comes to you!

Immigrant friendly, sure. Refugee friendly? Not so much. Berlin is having some massive issues right now with how to handle them (1).

Then again, I'm in Australia, so I can't really talk.

(1) https://news.vice.com/video/berlins-refugee-crisis

Re: The new land of opportunity for immigrants is Germany

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Post by [deleted] »

kamakazizuru wrote: post #51
trentmb wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sorry for the dumb question, but how would I find these employers? I did study four years of German in highschool (so I can hold a conversation with a toddler. Maybe) and have a degree in mathematics from UIUC.

look on monster.de for english speaking jobs, or thelocal.de - there are also facebook groups for startups in berlin who are looking to hire. Your best bet is to be here and look for something though - the odds of getting hired sitting in the US are slim to none unless you are really highly qualified / have tonnes of experience. If you're looking to get hired in tech get in touch.

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Re: The new land of opportunity for immigrants is Germany

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Post by avar »

What's the endgame for propping up population numbers with immigration? Surely the whole system falls apart once the net fertility rate falls below 2. What then?

There's good reasons to be immigration-friendly, but dealing with the endgame of the inevitably shrinking population like the Japanese are doing seems like a better long-term strategy than the temporary band-aid solution of solving the problem in the short-term with increased immigration.

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