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Choose Firefox Now, Or Later You Won't Get A Choice

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Re: Choose Firefox Now, Or Later You Won't Get A Choice

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Post by _cipher_ »

I'm calling bullshit.

Firecrap will support HTML5 DRM. What kind of choice are you talking about? We have _no choice_ (well, except from way smaller projects, which doesn't matter. I can't see the majority of users using netsurf or some other cool project).

Yes, I still use firefox from time to time, but the situation is getting worse. Instead of fixing older bugs, they keep adding new ones. Huge memory leaks and for what? For a browser that supposedly let's you view... web pages.

I begin to think that unix and it's simplicity destroyed my way of thinking. ;)

Re: Choose Firefox Now, Or Later You Won't Get A Choice

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Post by myrryr »

stephenr wrote: post #67
_random_ wrote: post #56

Mozilla's persistent over-promotion of the legacy technologies (HTML, JS, CSS) as the only acceptable way of web development is a very strong turn-off for me. NaCl let's you use e.g. C# in-browser without shitty and low-performance workarounds like transpiling. I hope it will become mainstream.

is this meant to be a joke/sarcasm?

I can see what you are saying, but NACL is a big deal.

It isn't ONLY c/c++ but any language that can compile with LLVM, which is almost every language.

Think about it, new scripting languages, new compiled languages, anything language you care about. You want to write in Haskell? fine... do so, and have it run instead of javascript.

This IS a big big deal. No language is perfect, so the ability to use any of them? It is huge.

Re: Choose Firefox Now, Or Later You Won't Get A Choice

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Post by Kenji »

Why should we choose a product that is qualitatively worse (in my opinion, this is up to debate, but just compare the JavaScript engine, V8 owns) just to keep having a choice? A free market works exactly because people choose what they like the most and let the things that can't compete die. Through this darwinian selection, products gradually converge towards a better quality. What you are proposing is completely irrational. If Chrome were to suddenly drop in quality for any reason, there would be a million people creating a better solution. But there aren't because Chrome works very well right now.

Re: Choose Firefox Now, Or Later You Won't Get A Choice

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Post by xkiwi »

One thing I want to point out immediately when I saw this post: Chrome makes virus-like auto-update, It just freak me out. Google keeps their product auto-update and gave a reason: better services, but ALL I CAN FEEL is FINFISHER is coming closer and closer.

Second, Firefox give me more freedom so far. I can install whatever plugin I want, regardless whether violate Google's terms of service. Instant example, you can't download a Youtube video with chrome store app.

Re: Choose Firefox Now, Or Later You Won't Get A Choice

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Post by RubyPinch »

tachion wrote: post #50
wingerlang wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I modified an existing theme [0] and now it looks like this http://imgur.com/kkXpFHX still not pretty but it stays out of the way so I don't really care at the moment. [0] https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/littlefox-for...

I dont mean to insult you, but this looks just ugly, and the UI seems to be way too small to be used with comfort. I wonder if there's really no way to stop Firefox from wasting that space above the tabs, just like Chrome does it...

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/hide-caption-...

personally I use it along-side

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/ft-deepdark/

http://i.imgur.com/AvBjeSz.png is the result on windows 8 with a bit of settings changes

Re: Choose Firefox Now, Or Later You Won't Get A Choice

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Post by plicense »

I was an ardent Chrome supporter and always wanted to make the switch to Chrome. Thanks to your post, the switch has been made. I feel a lot of difference, particularly with respect to how easy my Google searches were, since I was signed in. But then, that's the whole reason why I am switching to Firefox.

Re: Choose Firefox Now, Or Later You Won't Get A Choice

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Post by boot13 »

I'm having trouble understanding why this FUD is the top story on the otherwise excellent HN. Having choice is good, but assuming Google's domination would be a bad thing just because it was bad with Microsoft doesn't give Google enough credit. I currently use Firefox because it is the least crappy browser out there, but I'd love to switch, because it still has stability issues, particularly with animated GIFs and video.

Re: Choose Firefox Now, Or Later You Won't Get A Choice

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Post by romerro »

myrryr wrote: post #116
stephenr wrote: post #71

Earlier quoted context omitted.

that would defeat the purpose of them creating Chrome in the first place - to have access to product (by which I mean people using the browser) activities. What other advertising company has ever had as many fingers in as many pies? It’s entirely possible for people in parts of the USA be getting a large percentage of their web content (search, news, video, social etc) from a Google web property, using a device contr…

They are a Tech company, they make most of their money from ad's for now, but I expect in the future, it will be from AI and robotics, since they are investing incredible amounts in those areas.

Nope, that's just to deceive you. They still just want/need your attention and more of it every year on more surfaces. Online Media is way too profitable to "pivot" away from it :)

Re: Choose Firefox Now, Or Later You Won't Get A Choice

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Post by xyzzyz »

Kenji wrote: post #123

Why should we choose a product that is qualitatively worse (in my opinion, this is up to debate, but just compare the JavaScript engine, V8 owns) just to keep having a choice? A free market works exactly because people choose what they like the most and let the things that can't compete die. Through this darwinian selection, products gradually converge towards a better quality. What you are proposing is completely ir…

Fast website loading and JavaScript engine speed are not the only qualities people care about. Adherence to open standards and transparent procedure, lack of vendor lock-in, or diversity in the market are qualities themselves too. Just remember the dark years of web, when IE was dominating and web was stagnating.
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