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Choose Firefox Now, Or Later You Won't Get A Choice

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Re: Choose Firefox Now, Or Later You Won't Get A Choice

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Post by nyar »

VMG wrote: post #9

Please remind me why Google is the default search engine in Firefox.

Because Mozilla gets money from it and it is something familiar for users.

As a user who knows about "defaults" you're way ahead of everyone else and can probably figure out how to change them. For people who don't care Google is perfect.

Re: Choose Firefox Now, Or Later You Won't Get A Choice

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Post by rwmj »

I do use Firefox, through inertia, but honestly it's not a good browser. It consumes 50%+ CPU constantly. It uses huge amounts of RAM. It crashes from time to time. Every few months I end up losing all my open tabs permanently. There's no isolation (process per tab). And they keep making gratuitous changes to the UI that don't improve the real UI problems but do require searching through about:config to revert them.

I would love there to be a minimal but usable browser.

Re: Choose Firefox Now, Or Later You Won't Get A Choice

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Post by song »

rwmj wrote: post #13

I do use Firefox, through inertia, but honestly it's not a good browser. It consumes 50%+ CPU constantly. It uses huge amounts of RAM. It crashes from time to time. Every few months I end up losing all my open tabs permanently. There's no isolation (process per tab). And they keep making gratuitous changes to the UI that don't improve the real UI problems but do require searching through about:config to revert them.…

I agree for the no isolation part but in term of CPU and RAM I find that chrome tends to be worse than firefox actually.

The reason I switched back to Firefox from Chrome is the Self Destructing Cookie Extension which is just great.

Re: Choose Firefox Now, Or Later You Won't Get A Choice

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Post by ekianjo »

This guy writes against Google world domination using Blogger. A good example of how to shoot down your credibility. But hey, he is a hacker. Looks like its out of a hackers reach to host your blog. But choose Mozilla.

By the way isnt Mozilla like 90 percent financed by Google?

Re: Choose Firefox Now, Or Later You Won't Get A Choice

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Post by codeflo »

As someone who switches browsers about every six months, I feel that Firefox is still quite a bit behind in terms of stability and performance. I mostly blame the single-process model, which makes crashes and hangups way more global than they should be in 2014.

On Windows, there's also the 32-bit issue. On machines with 8+ GB of RAM, having all tabs share a 2 GB address space just doesn't cut it. Especially when your addon model, one of the key features that sets Firefox apart from other browsers, eats an additional 4 MB of this limited space per tab (and that's just for one addon).[1]

Having said all that, I know that brilliant people are working on fixing this, and there have been huge improvements in the past year. And that's how I hope they'll win back users: by building a better browser, not just by appealing to open-source ideals and fear.

[1] https://blog.mozilla.org/nnethercote/2014/05/14/adblock-plus...

Re: Choose Firefox Now, Or Later You Won't Get A Choice

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Post by jtmoulia »

rwmj wrote: post #13

I do use Firefox, through inertia, but honestly it's not a good browser. It consumes 50%+ CPU constantly. It uses huge amounts of RAM. It crashes from time to time. Every few months I end up losing all my open tabs permanently. There's no isolation (process per tab). And they keep making gratuitous changes to the UI that don't improve the real UI problems but do require searching through about:config to revert them.…

That's something I miss from running Linux: there were far more minimal browser options.

- Midori http://midori-browser.org/

- GNOME Web https://wiki.gnome.org/Apps/Web

- rekonq http://rekonq.kde.org/

Re: Choose Firefox Now, Or Later You Won't Get A Choice

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Post by VMG »

mcherm wrote: post #10
VMG wrote: post #9

Please remind me why Google is the default search engine in Firefox.

It may be the default, but the search engine is fully configurable, with no degredation in functionality.

Right, yet the Google, the evil tyrant, still thinks the default setting is worth paying $160m a year, accounting for over 80% of Mozilla's income.

So is using Mozilla in the interest of Google, or is it not?

Re: Choose Firefox Now, Or Later You Won't Get A Choice

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Post by SteveGregory »

pmorici wrote: post #12
VMG wrote: post #9

Please remind me why Google is the default search engine in Firefox.

They pay Mozilla a lot of money for the privilege?

It actually is most of the funding for Mozilla, at least in 2011:

http://techcrunch.com/2012/11/15/mozilla-releases-annual-rep...

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