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Where We Came From, State by State

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Re: Where We Came From, State by State

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Interesting to me was that there were plenty of foreigners in multiple states before 1960, it then dropped mostly to it's lowest in around 1970 and then grew again to today. So what happened in the run to the 70s that so few foreigners live in CA, NY, WA etc...

I think what you're identifying is mostly the baby boom.

I originally thought the same. Instead of immigration numbers decreasing during those years, it's possible a lot more people were born in the states relative to the number immigrating then. It turns out, though, that foreign-born population did actually decrease substantially:

http://www.census.gov/population/www/documentation/twps0029/...

Re: Where We Came From, State by State

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I used to live in Idaho, and its interesting to me to be able to track back trends that we anecdotally could see happening, but had no hard numbers on. For example, one of the major trends has been the population volatility, and particularly California immigration due to the lack of population and low land cost.

In 1950, 1% of Idahoans were from California. In 1960, 2%. In 1970, 4%. In 1980, 7%. In 1990, 7%. In 2000, 9%. In 2012, 12%.

To me, this is particularly cool when compared to a state like Alabama or Tennessee. Literally no change in relative immigration from neighbors except for a slow loss of native children.

In fact, you could create a volatility scale for states (how homogeneous is their immigration over time) and it would go from almost zero in the East to crazy in the West. Oregon, Arizona, and Nevada being particularly interesting / volatile states.

I wonder if there's a correlation to the volatility and the general political leanings of those locations. IE, does politics diffuse along these same lines? If California, was 75% "liberal" and 25% "conservative" over time, could we estimate that Idaho has gotten about 7% more liberal in the last 40 years? or is the immigration self selecting? (people want to live near folks like them?)

Re: Where We Came From, State by State

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I used to live in Idaho, and its interesting to me to be able to track back trends that we anecdotally could see happening, but had no hard numbers on. For example, one of the major trends has been the population volatility, and particularly California immigration due to the lack of population and low land cost. In 1950, 1% of Idahoans were from California. In 1960, 2%. In 1970, 4%. In 1980, 7%. In 1990, 7%. In 2000,…

There are two big trends:

- External immigration to large population centers in New York, California, Washington state, the Washington DC area and Illinois.

- Inward migration of Americans leaving those denser areas to states such as TX, Oregon, Idaho, Utah, etc. where land is cheaper and the standard of living is higher for the middle class. This is not represented in the graph because it only shows the origin of state residents. http://www.governing.com/gov-data/census/2010-census-state-m...

Re: Where We Came From, State by State

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Interesting to me was that there were plenty of foreigners in multiple states before 1960, it then dropped mostly to it's lowest in around 1970 and then grew again to today. So what happened in the run to the 70s that so few foreigners live in CA, NY, WA etc...

Tight immigration restrictions were put into federal law in the 1920s, and as people born before that decade aged, they made up a smaller and smaller percentage of people in each state. The peak period of immigration to the United States, as a percentage of people who had already arrived, was about the turn of the century between the nineteenth and twentieth centuries. The Immigration and Nationality Act of 1965 loos…

The extreme low rate of settlement etc. in the deep south had a good deal to do with the weak economy.

Re: Where We Came From, State by State

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I've been looking everywhere for the inverse of these graphs = states that former-residents of each state moved to. I used to live in a state that many went to college in, but none of those stayed after graduation.

Is this along the lines of what you're looking for? http://www.governing.com/gov-data/census/2010-census-state-m...

Re: Where We Came From, State by State

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post #14

I used to live in Idaho, and its interesting to me to be able to track back trends that we anecdotally could see happening, but had no hard numbers on. For example, one of the major trends has been the population volatility, and particularly California immigration due to the lack of population and low land cost. In 1950, 1% of Idahoans were from California. In 1960, 2%. In 1970, 4%. In 1980, 7%. In 1990, 7%. In 2000,…

There are two big trends: - External immigration to large population centers in New York, California, Washington state, the Washington DC area and Illinois. - Inward migration of Americans leaving those denser areas to states such as TX, Oregon, Idaho, Utah, etc. where land is cheaper and the standard of living is higher for the middle class. This is not represented in the graph because it only shows the origin of st…

I can speak towards migrating to Oregon. My cost of living has dropped by about 25% while my overall quality of life, sans anything money-related, has gone up.

Re: Where We Came From, State by State

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Interesting to me was that there were plenty of foreigners in multiple states before 1960, it then dropped mostly to it's lowest in around 1970 and then grew again to today. So what happened in the run to the 70s that so few foreigners live in CA, NY, WA etc...

basically, asian people weren't allowed to immigrate to the US until the mid 60's.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_and_Nationality_Act...

Re: Where We Came From, State by State

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The NYTimes groups all immigrants as "Outside the United States".

If you are interested in where the immigrants from each state come from, check this out:

Map: Where The Majority of Immigrants Come From By State https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8179477

It also plots it excluding Mexico, as Mexico is the #1 for most states.

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