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What Do Blind People Actually See?

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Re: What Do Blind People Actually See?

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I've been struggling to comprehend what "nothingness" would look like, but I think this comment has helped. It's very hard to imagine pure blindness.

But that's a question of focus. If you close your one eye and ask "what do I see out of it" you get a different answer than if you don't ask the question.

Yeah, the brain just prioritizes the right eye. If you concentrate you can perceive the blackness in the left eye. That kinda leads me to wonder if eyes send a signal for black? If not and no signal is interpreted as black by the brain and your eyes are damaged then you would "see" black; even if you can't tell it because you have no point of reference?

Re: What Do Blind People Actually See?

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If you have some light perception, what happens if you shine different colors of light in your eye?

Nothing, it looks the same to me.

I suppose it is possible you're perceiving the light as a particular color, but if you can only perceive that color you would mistaken it for white?

Re: What Do Blind People Actually See?

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I am not blind, but I do occasionally get migraines with visual auras, as do my wife & mother. Exactly once in my life that I recall, I had a migraine that caused total perceptual blindness (oddly, this has also happened exactly once to my wife, before we knew each other). It's extremely odd- one's visual field (at least in our cases) steadily contracts, until there's just nothing left. It's not an annulus of darknes…

It's extremely odd- one's visual field (at least in our cases) steadily contracts, until there's just nothing left. It's not an annulus of darkness closing in, it's juts nothing- the field you can see is smaller, and there's still nothing outside of it, just like there always isn't. This is the first time I've heard of anyone else experiencing this phenomenon besides myself. Have there ever been any long-term effects…

You mentioned "eye doctors," but have you seen a retina specialist? I've temporarily lost sight twice, but in my case it is like having matte grey construction paper cover part or all of my vision. My retina specialist has found a couple of issues.

Re: What Do Blind People Actually See?

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As someone who has been blind since birth this is accurate. I know that people who go blind later in life continue to dream in color since they have the memory of color to reference while I do not. I wonder if someone who goes blind later in life experiences things differently, possibly by automatically filling in what they assume they would see based on what they know of there surroundings from there other sences.

I've been blind in my left eye since birth and kids often asked me what I saw, assuming that it was just blackness. In my case if you shine a flashlight in my left eye at the right angle I can see a flash of color, but otherwise there's just no perception at all. It's probably worth clarifying what we mean by blind. The article and the parent comment are talking about having no light perception at all. However, many…

Similarly, I am almost entirely blind in my left eye and have been since birth. I have some very limited peripheral vision, but I can basically only sense light and movement in a very narrow field of view if I try very hard.

People have always assumed that what I see out of my left eye is basically what someone would see out of a normal, healthy eye with a big black spot in the middle, but that's not it. I don't see blackness, I see nothing.

Re: What Do Blind People Actually See?

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It's extremely odd- one's visual field (at least in our cases) steadily contracts, until there's just nothing left. It's not an annulus of darkness closing in, it's juts nothing- the field you can see is smaller, and there's still nothing outside of it, just like there always isn't. This is the first time I've heard of anyone else experiencing this phenomenon besides myself. Have there ever been any long-term effects…

I'm sorry to hear that. My wife has a rare brain disease and unfortunately, it's something she's all too familiar with. If it's happening to you without corresponding migraines (or even with), see a neurologist , there may be something wrong. Her neurologist regularly sends her for opthalmologist exams just in case and they never find anything wrong.

Thank you for the info. May I ask, which disease?

Re: What Do Blind People Actually See?

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I was born (40 some odd years back) with an underdeveloped optic nerve in my left eye. An early surgery for Amblyopia corrected my gaze, but those first years of wearing a patch over "my good eye" resulted in nothing more than a lot of stress for my folks. And while I attempted to explain what I could see (are they shadows?), I never really had an answer as to why I could count "how many fingers" someone was holding…

Wow, I think you might have a very similar vision issue as I do!

Left eye as well, although my eye is healthy, it was closed when I was a baby so my vision never developed properly. Eye patching was tried on me as a kid, but just resulted in a cranky toddler me. It took years and years for me being able to verbalize what I could see out of my left eye--I basically have some limited peripheral vision and no central vision. My eye doctor explained that part of the issue is that peripheral vision primarily detects motion while central vision is for detail--so while I can detect motion and light, it's hard for me to put an image together.

I have so many memories of trying to read that big stupid E with my left eye and not being able to explain what I saw. (Um, there's a light on, right?)

Re: What Do Blind People Actually See?

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I am not blind, but I do occasionally get migraines with visual auras, as do my wife & mother. Exactly once in my life that I recall, I had a migraine that caused total perceptual blindness (oddly, this has also happened exactly once to my wife, before we knew each other). It's extremely odd- one's visual field (at least in our cases) steadily contracts, until there's just nothing left. It's not an annulus of darknes…

It's extremely odd- one's visual field (at least in our cases) steadily contracts, until there's just nothing left. It's not an annulus of darkness closing in, it's juts nothing- the field you can see is smaller, and there's still nothing outside of it, just like there always isn't. This is the first time I've heard of anyone else experiencing this phenomenon besides myself. Have there ever been any long-term effects…

Some of the migraine aura symptoms are terrifying. My ex temporarily lost the ability to remember most words, including "door". Even after being told them, they were gone again seconds later.

Re: What Do Blind People Actually See?

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I am not blind, but I do occasionally get migraines with visual auras, as do my wife & mother. Exactly once in my life that I recall, I had a migraine that caused total perceptual blindness (oddly, this has also happened exactly once to my wife, before we knew each other). It's extremely odd- one's visual field (at least in our cases) steadily contracts, until there's just nothing left. It's not an annulus of darknes…

It's extremely odd- one's visual field (at least in our cases) steadily contracts, until there's just nothing left. It's not an annulus of darkness closing in, it's juts nothing- the field you can see is smaller, and there's still nothing outside of it, just like there always isn't. This is the first time I've heard of anyone else experiencing this phenomenon besides myself. Have there ever been any long-term effects…

I suffered something similar, just once, about twenty years ago, in high school, and never since. Although, instead of an impression of nothingness, it felt more like a Photoshop content aware fill, similar to the optic nerve blind spot, but moved to the fovea.

I was walking the hall to my first period, mainly looking at the bland floor tiles, and didn't realize anything was abnormal. When I happened to look up at the faces of fellow students, I noticed they had no faces, just skin colored smoothness. My hands, and text on the posters on the walls appeared in my peripheral vision, but as soon as I looked directly at anything, it seemed to disappear into an average of it's surrounding colors. I didn't freak out, but calmly walked to my first period, where I was scheduled to take a test. I made way to my desk, and marveled at this oddness, but didn't say anything, until the test was passed out and I could tell it was a page of text, but, of course, the words disappeared upon inspection. I was really impressed how useless my peripheral vision was in dealing with text or faces.

I had an awkward conversation with the teacher, who I feared thought I'd invented a disorder to get out of the test, before being allowed to visit the nurse.

The condition lasted maybe an hour. The ophthalmologist I saw shortly after found nothing wrong with my retinas or eye pressure, and declared it a visual migraine and let me go, with a newfound empathy for those with macular degeneration.

Re: What Do Blind People Actually See?

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I've been blind in my left eye since birth and kids often asked me what I saw, assuming that it was just blackness. In my case if you shine a flashlight in my left eye at the right angle I can see a flash of color, but otherwise there's just no perception at all. It's probably worth clarifying what we mean by blind. The article and the parent comment are talking about having no light perception at all. However, many…

I've heard it described that blind people see what we see out of our left eye when we only have our right eye open. It's not blackness, it's just no perception.

My brain didn't program itself for vision quite right when I was an infant due to strong nearsightedness at birth so I don't experience this effect.

While the eye which is closed receives – 'less attention' is the best way I can put it – I perceive blackness in that portion of my visual field.

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