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Google Web Fundamentals: Monetization

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Re: Google Web Fundamentals: Monetization

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Post by justboxing »

kinlan wrote: post #2

One of the authors of the site here. We are very keen to get feedback on the content that web developers want to see with regards to monetization. For example one area that I am keen to see us grow is building components in sites that optimize credit card data entry.

Hi, (to original authors of the site)

Could you guys publish square ads with dimensions that instagram images and videos have, i.e. ad units that are 612 px square, 306 px Square and 150 px square, so the 1000s of Instagram client apps that use their API can monetize their apps and sites?

These ad sizes would be really awesome because we can then blend the ads with the Instagram posts and it would all be very frictionless and seamless from the end user perspective and monetization might increase for google and the ad sense publishers.

Thank you!

Re: Google Web Fundamentals: Monetization

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Post by kinlan »

justboxing wrote: post #21
kinlan wrote: post #2

One of the authors of the site here. We are very keen to get feedback on the content that web developers want to see with regards to monetization. For example one area that I am keen to see us grow is building components in sites that optimize credit card data entry.

Hi, (to original authors of the site) Could you guys publish square ads with dimensions that instagram images and videos have, i.e. ad units that are 612 px square, 306 px Square and 150 px square, so the 1000s of Instagram client apps that use their API can monetize their apps and sites? These ad sizes would be really awesome because we can then blend the ads with the Instagram posts and it would all be very frictio…

I'll speak to the ads team tomorrow. Not sure I will get an answer but I have been working with them a bit now.

Re: Google Web Fundamentals: Monetization

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Post by notduncansmith »

conradfr wrote: post #6
kinlan wrote: post #2

One of the authors of the site here. We are very keen to get feedback on the content that web developers want to see with regards to monetization. For example one area that I am keen to see us grow is building components in sites that optimize credit card data entry.

You forgot the part where Adsense suddenly bans your account, refunds your money to advertisers and gives you no real appeal possible.

Hear, hear. I've had way too many friends get their Adsense accounts banned to ever want to get involved with that mess.

Re: Google Web Fundamentals: Monetization

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Post by dpweb »

idlewords wrote: post #13

I would be loath to take advice from Google about how to monetize a small website. Not just because of the conflict of interest (of course they want people to run ads), but because it's not their area of expertise.

I'd think Google knows more than any organization in the world how to best monetize a website. In fact uniquely positioned as the only company to know. Look at all the data they have access to. A lot of these people run g analytics too not just adsense. They give up their website data to g for free. If any organization has the hard data on what's effective and not, they do. Now, take their advice? That's a different story. I'll check industry standards if they say 3$ cpm and I'm getting 10 already, I don't need their advise necessarily.

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Post by smaddock »

I have a landing page for an application I've made which users then click through to navigate to other websites. This single page gets around 1-2 million views a month and I'd like to place an ad on the page if possible. However, Google AdSense denied me being that the page doesn't actually have enough content for them to automatically determine relevant ads.

What other options do I have to get an ad placed onto the landing page?

Re: Google Web Fundamentals: Monetization

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Post by jfoster »

dozy wrote: post #12

Regarding the article 'Let Users Explore Before They Commit' - This is much easier said than done, and the effort and complexity will vary greatly depending on your site/app. The example used (nondescript clothing app) is one of the simpler cases, whereby the cross-session and device user-state need not be maintained, or is at least pretty minimal. For many app developers, though, the richness of their feature-set do…

Google may also not be the best party to listen to for some of this advice. Google has an interest in ensuring they can index as much as possible. If they can't, it's their product that is less valuable. There are enough prominent sites not doing this (facebook, quora, etc.) that it seems Google may be mixing up what's good for you with what's good for them.

Re: Google Web Fundamentals: Monetization

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Post by JeremyMorgan »

conradfr wrote: post #6
kinlan wrote: post #2

One of the authors of the site here. We are very keen to get feedback on the content that web developers want to see with regards to monetization. For example one area that I am keen to see us grow is building components in sites that optimize credit card data entry.

You forgot the part where Adsense suddenly bans your account, refunds your money to advertisers and gives you no real appeal possible.

Someone had to say it.

Though I've never been banned, I know quite a few friends who have over the years. A couple of them deserved it (asking for clicks to support etc) but some of them not so much.

Like one guy getting banned because there was a thread talking about guns in his forum. His forum was definitely G-Rated, which is a requirement for adsense, but this one thread got him booted, and all his earnings yanked. Had they warned him (which they do more of now) he would have just deleted the thread but instead it was shut down with no appeal.

Stuff like that needs to be addressed more and looked at. After all what's the business sense in having LESS advertisers? I can see weeding out obvious offenders but as of now it seems they are a little to quick with the ban button.

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Post by callmeed »

smaddock wrote: post #25

I have a landing page for an application I've made which users then click through to navigate to other websites. This single page gets around 1-2 million views a month and I'd like to place an ad on the page if possible. However, Google AdSense denied me being that the page doesn't actually have enough content for them to automatically determine relevant ads. What other options do I have to get an ad placed onto the…

https://buysellads.com/

Re: Google Web Fundamentals: Monetization

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Post by benologist »

smaddock wrote: post #25

I have a landing page for an application I've made which users then click through to navigate to other websites. This single page gets around 1-2 million views a month and I'd like to place an ad on the page if possible. However, Google AdSense denied me being that the page doesn't actually have enough content for them to automatically determine relevant ads. What other options do I have to get an ad placed onto the…

I'd try approaching app developers who have complementary titles and selling ad space to them.

Re: Google Web Fundamentals: Monetization

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Post by ianlevesque »

JeremyMorgan wrote: post #27
conradfr wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You forgot the part where Adsense suddenly bans your account, refunds your money to advertisers and gives you no real appeal possible.

Someone had to say it. Though I've never been banned, I know quite a few friends who have over the years. A couple of them deserved it (asking for clicks to support etc) but some of them not so much. Like one guy getting banned because there was a thread talking about guns in his forum. His forum was definitely G-Rated, which is a requirement for adsense, but this one thread got him booted, and all his earnings yanke…

I don't agree with it but it's probably cheaper for Google to lose a few customers to false bans than pay humans to review all the cases.
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