Humans Need Not Apply

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Post by hugofirth » Wed, Aug 13, 2014, 12:11 PM UTC

Humans Need Not Apply
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Post by courseeplus » Wed, Aug 13, 2014, 12:24 PM UTC

Wow Nice Story

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Post by bjz_ » Wed, Aug 13, 2014, 12:59 PM UTC

Great work as always from CGP Grey. Be sure to check out his other videos - they are well worth the watch.

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Post by hugofirth » Wed, Aug 13, 2014, 1:17 PM UTC

bjz_ wrote: post #3

Great work as always from CGP Grey. Be sure to check out his other videos - they are well worth the watch.

They are fantastic. This video represents something of a departure in form for him (in style, not quality), but I enjoyed the longer format.

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Post by netcraft » Wed, Aug 13, 2014, 2:00 PM UTC

We already have an issue in the united states with not enough jobs to go around, if this dystopian outlook is truly inevitable, what are our options for mitigating it, or at least coping with it?

I have thought quite a bit about autonomous vehicles and how I can't wait to buy one and never have to drive again, how many benefits it will have on society (faster commutes, fewer accidents, etc), but I hadn't considered how much the transportation industry will be affected and especially how much truck drivers in particular would be ideal to replace. The NYT ran a story the other day (http://www.nytimes.com/2014/08/10/upshot/the-trucking-indust...) about how we don't have enough drivers to fulfill the needs, but "Autos" could swing that pendulum swiftly in the opposite direction once legeslation and production catch up. How do we handle 3.6M truck, delivery and taxi drivers looking for a new job?

I haven't read it yet, but I have recently had recommendations of the book Superintelligence: Paths, Dangers, Strategies (http://smile.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B00LOOCGB2/0sil8/re...) which I look forward to reading and hope it might be relevant.

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Post by hugofirth » Wed, Aug 13, 2014, 2:12 PM UTC

netcraft wrote: post #5

We already have an issue in the united states with not enough jobs to go around, if this dystopian outlook is truly inevitable, what are our options for mitigating it, or at least coping with it? I have thought quite a bit about autonomous vehicles and how I can't wait to buy one and never have to drive again, how many benefits it will have on society (faster commutes, fewer accidents, etc), but I hadn't considered h…

Agreed. I'll have to have a look at that book.

I personally just hope that for once, governments, organisations and media outlets around the world can tackle something proactively and responsibly.

With social shifts as large and potentially difficult as those suggested by this video, we need a mental, moral and legislative framework for coping as soon as possible. Preferably before they are necessitated by the negative consequences of inaction.

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Post by Joof » Wed, Aug 13, 2014, 4:54 PM UTC

The real question is what to do about it. As a species what will happen to us when we completely obsolete ourselves?

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Post by dpatriarche » Wed, Aug 13, 2014, 5:11 PM UTC

I particularly liked one of the points that Grey made towards the end: what do we do about all of the people who will be "unemployable through no fault of their own"? Right now our economic system is predicated on rewarding those who deserve wealth (as judged by ability or hard work). The converse of that is that we as a society accept that the undeserving (stupid and/or lazy) will be punished economically. We rationalize this because we convince ourselves that it was their own fault, therefore it's "fair" . But what happens when intelligent, hard-working -- and therefore deserving -- people are unemployable? It's going to be a massive shock to people and to the system. (Or we will enter a state of mass cognitive dissonance and convince ourselves that the majority of the population has become stupid and lazy and so is getting what they deserve.)

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Post by pkfrank » Thu, Aug 14, 2014, 2:58 AM UTC

hugofirth wrote: post #4

bjz_ wrote: post #3

Great work as always from CGP Grey. Be sure to check out his other videos - they are well worth the watch.

They are fantastic. This video represents something of a departure in form for him (in style, not quality), but I enjoyed the longer format.

I enjoyed it as well. This definitely feels like his most substantial video to date. It was less fun-fact-filled and quirky than his usual videos; instead, it was more serious/thorough, and focused on a major trend. Really quality stuff.

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Post by deciplex » Thu, Aug 14, 2014, 4:13 AM UTC

dpatriarche wrote: post #8

I particularly liked one of the points that Grey made towards the end: what do we do about all of the people who will be "unemployable through no fault of their own"? Right now our economic system is predicated on rewarding those who deserve wealth (as judged by ability or hard work). The converse of that is that we as a society accept that the undeserving (stupid and/or lazy) will be punished economically. We ration…

>Or we will enter a state of mass cognitive dissonance and convince ourselves that the majority of the population has become stupid and lazy and so is getting what they deserve.

A lot of people have already convinced themselves of that. Everyone is a part of a persecuted minority now, which has the simultaneous benefits of justifying the suffering of others (i.e. they deserve it), and providing a nice scapegoat for their own suffering (it's the goddamn liberals, red-staters, intellectuals, Hollywood, christian fundamentalists, etc. etc.). It allows people to be angry about their situation (which is unavoidable) while keeping that anger totally impotent. So goes the theory, anyway.

So you can oppress pretty much everyone, and present it to each group a little differently, and as long as you keep them at each others throats they will accept it.