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USB 3.0 Promoter Group Announces USB Type-C Connector Ready for Production [pdf]

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Re: USB 3.0 Promoter Group Announces USB Type-C Connector Ready for Production [pdf]

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I'm not an apple fanboy - but I do really like their magsafe & iPad mini connectors (whatever those are called officially). One thing I really like is the lack of "sticky-out-bit" in the middle of the connector, which all USB sockets seem to have, and which always feels kind of unstable or weak to me. Is there a reason why all USB sockets - including these new diagrams - have a feeble looking centre part rather than…

> Is there a reason why all USB sockets - including these > new diagrams - have a feeble looking centre part rather > than it being part of the outer ring? The outer part is the RF shield. That increases reliability by protecting the low voltage (but high frequency) USB data signals from coupling to outside interference (50/60 hz stray emf from power lines, switching power supply noise, etc). The magsafe connectors a…

It seems like an RF shield on the male end is unnecessary. Apple's current iPhone connector does without it. I have no idea how they could see the lightning connector, then go and design a next gen standard that is across the board inferior. The Apple connector is sturdier, and has much more latitude for insertion angle. Surely Apple doesn't have a patent on a housing-less male plug.

My guess is the housing serves more as a mount point providing the friction and spring, rather than being necessary for shielding.

Re: USB 3.0 Promoter Group Announces USB Type-C Connector Ready for Production [pdf]

#33

I'm not an apple fanboy - but I do really like their magsafe & iPad mini connectors (whatever those are called officially). One thing I really like is the lack of "sticky-out-bit" in the middle of the connector, which all USB sockets seem to have, and which always feels kind of unstable or weak to me. Is there a reason why all USB sockets - including these new diagrams - have a feeble looking centre part rather than…

Hmm, while Lightning connector is rather nice, I don't like MagSafe 2 at all... it keeps falling out from the connection, especially if I use the laptop on a bed or similar surface.

The original MagSafe and the connector on my previous Dell M1330 were significantly more reliable while still providing enough protection.

Re: USB 3.0 Promoter Group Announces USB Type-C Connector Ready for Production [pdf]

#34

I'm not an apple fanboy - but I do really like their magsafe & iPad mini connectors (whatever those are called officially). One thing I really like is the lack of "sticky-out-bit" in the middle of the connector, which all USB sockets seem to have, and which always feels kind of unstable or weak to me. Is there a reason why all USB sockets - including these new diagrams - have a feeble looking centre part rather than…

>iPad mini connector (whatever those are called officially)

It is called the "Lightning" connector.

http://i.imgur.com/GSYJTI1.jpg

Re: USB 3.0 Promoter Group Announces USB Type-C Connector Ready for Production [pdf]

#36
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Now you only have to plug it in one time instead of three!

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Agreed. I manage to do it in the dark every night plugging in my cell phone. Really...

Re: USB 3.0 Promoter Group Announces USB Type-C Connector Ready for Production [pdf]

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Now you only have to plug it in one time instead of three!

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Unfortunately, the original USB spec recommended connectors with spin-1/2 rotational symmetry, so you sometimes have to rotate the plug more than 360 degrees to make it fit in the port.

Re: USB 3.0 Promoter Group Announces USB Type-C Connector Ready for Production [pdf]

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> Is there a reason why all USB sockets - including these > new diagrams - have a feeble looking centre part rather > than it being part of the outer ring? The outer part is the RF shield. That increases reliability by protecting the low voltage (but high frequency) USB data signals from coupling to outside interference (50/60 hz stray emf from power lines, switching power supply noise, etc). The magsafe connectors a…

But what about the Lightning connectors on iPads and iPhones? They don't have that outside shield but they carry high speed signals.

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Re: USB 3.0 Promoter Group Announces USB Type-C Connector Ready for Production [pdf]

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Now you only have to plug it in one time instead of three!

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True, but sometimes it is not easily visible, or you want to plug it in without looking at it.

Re: USB 3.0 Promoter Group Announces USB Type-C Connector Ready for Production [pdf]

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Now you only have to plug it in one time instead of three!

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Eyes should not be mandatory to operate a USB cable. I can think of no other consumer cable that requires me to stare at it while I plug it in.
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