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A Fixed Income Is a Sucker Bet

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Re: A Fixed Income Is a Sucker Bet

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For anybody who's read the black swan, fixed income is mediocristan & variable income is extremistan which means that the upside to the variable income lifestyle is a relatively small proportion of people living the glamorous lifestyle that Pavlina is selling but the downside is the much larger number of people who are barely scraping by making ends meet on the same system. We'd all like to believe that we could be w…

the upside to the variable income lifestyle is a relatively small proportion of people living the glamorous lifestyle that Pavlina is selling but the downside is the much larger number of people who are barely scraping by making ends meet on the same system

While this is true, I don't think the assumption that most of the people who end up on top somehow deserve their success and those on the bottom deserve their failures is correct. More to the point, a moral system built on this is is cruel, damaging to one's psyche, and a bad way to motivate people to create things. Alain De Botton gives a very eloquent TED talk about this [1], which is much more interesting than this Black Swan pep talk bullshit.

The reality is: in any given attempt at a complicated problem (like most jobs/startups), most failures and successes are for reasons outside of one's control. The world is simply much more complicated than our minds can comprehend. What we can control is how many ways we attempt difficult problems, and this precisely why perseverance plays a much bigger role than intelligence in startup success [2]: because individuals that appear as extraordinarily intelligent don't really understand the world that significantly better than someone of average intelligence. There's a point past which linguistic dialects and the ideas prevalent in one's social circle affect perceived IQ much more than the quality of one's world model. But persistence and effort, on the other hand, scales linearly - if you can iterate over 10 ideas instead of 1, you're 10 times as likely to succeed, no matter what your intelligence.

1. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MtSE4rglxbY

2. http://www.paulgraham.com/determination.html

Re: A Fixed Income Is a Sucker Bet

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

As a freelance designer myself, I can see exactly what you mean @wallflower. One of the up sides of all the economic woes of late is that it's helped me build a resistance to the normal fears that creep in, ie. being laid off or fired. Lose a few clients and you'll quickly learn how adept you are at filling the gaps. Trading time for money is just working for someone elses dream.

Freelancing is still trading time for money. Just a diverse set of sources of that money, but its still not scalable.

You could build parts of your income via selling advertisements on content site, and then suplement the rest with freelancing.

I was able to bootstrap my game development website that way. $70 from ads revenue and $50 from a freelance work.

However, a site that generate passive income from advertisement still require maintenance work to grow (and maybe to keep). Even so, it does make money while you sleep, eat, and work.

Re: A Fixed Income Is a Sucker Bet

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The phrase "fixed income" is generally used to refer to people who are living off an annuity or a pension that doesn't change from year to year, so that they would be totally screwed by inflation or a large unexpected expense.

Referring to a salaried job as a "fixed income" is such blatant hyperbole that I can't take the rest of his article seriously.

Re: A Fixed Income Is a Sucker Bet

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Sounds like a guy selling some kind of pyramid scheme. Oh wait, he is a motivational speaker, one level above the "get rich quick" folks. I found his post to be almost insulting (I'm rich, I'm making plenty of money and you are an idiot for not listening to me).

From the essay: On the other hand, maybe you want to inspire and motivate people for a living. This takes a lot more skill than delivering pizzas, but it’s in much higher demand relative to the supply.

Gosh, if I decided I wanted to inspire and motivate people for a living, who would I consult for advice on how to do it?...

Re: A Fixed Income Is a Sucker Bet

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Sounds like a guy selling some kind of pyramid scheme. Oh wait, he is a motivational speaker, one level above the "get rich quick" folks. I found his post to be almost insulting (I'm rich, I'm making plenty of money and you are an idiot for not listening to me).

You do realise the guy is / was a coder right?

He used to write shareware games / but then turned to doing the self-help stuff. Agreed that the article was pretty poor, but the guy is/was a bit above the 'get rich quick' folks

Re: A Fixed Income Is a Sucker Bet

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If you hit ctrl+f and replace "fixed" with "low" and "variable" with "high", then and only then does this article make any sense at all.

He points out that people on fixed incomes are screwed when things go wrong and expenses mount. Apparently in his mind, people with variable incomes (which I've had my entire adult life, btw) can just make more when they really need it or something.

In fairness the first half of the article was so dumb that I had to stop, so maybe it redeemed itself after.

Re: A Fixed Income Is a Sucker Bet

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Yet people with a scarcity mindset spend a lot more time nitpicking their expenses and taxes than they invest in boosting their income. Not a good trade off... not by a long shot. Bullshit. Acquiring more money by requiring less is infinitely easier than convincing people to pay you more, be it an employer or a customer. There's a ceiling to this, as everyone needs a roof over their heads, food to eat, and something…

You could work more hours instead.

Most of the time, when you reduce expenses, if you check how much you are "making" per hour, it's less that what you could get from working.

Obviously you could just not buy stuff, but I'm (and probably him too) talking about things like going to a farther store that has cheaper prices. You need to balance how long it takes you to get there, vs how much you will reduce your expenses.

Re: A Fixed Income Is a Sucker Bet

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post #14

Working for someone else is not scalable. "Trading time for money" My creative/artist friends amaze me because they have mastered the art of income diversification (freelancing, multiple P/T jobs, selling stuff on CL, babysitting). While not in the realm of Pavlina's success, they seem to be unafraid of the two things most white-collar professionals may be most afraid of: 1) being laid-off or fired and 2) quitting yo…

Except they probably work every waking hour. There's no reason (especially if you're creative/artist) that you can't get the security of a 40 hour a week job and be creative the rest of the time.

In my experience, having a regular 40-hour-a-week job really destroys my creativity. There's more to being creative than just having some time to spend on creative projects; after doing lots of monotonous things for someone else I used to find myself completely unmotivated to do anything. I think this relates to the feeling among creative types that some business management types don't understand that creativity isn't measured in hours.

To tie it into YC, think of the manager's schedule vs. the maker's schedule. A few hours a day after working eight hours for someone else isn't really enough time to get into creative mode.

Re: A Fixed Income Is a Sucker Bet

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post #21

For anybody who's read the black swan, fixed income is mediocristan & variable income is extremistan which means that the upside to the variable income lifestyle is a relatively small proportion of people living the glamorous lifestyle that Pavlina is selling but the downside is the much larger number of people who are barely scraping by making ends meet on the same system. We'd all like to believe that we could be w…

the upside to the variable income lifestyle is a relatively small proportion of people living the glamorous lifestyle that Pavlina is selling but the downside is the much larger number of people who are barely scraping by making ends meet on the same system While this is true, I don't think the assumption that most of the people who end up on top somehow deserve their success and those on the bottom deserve their fai…

which is much more interesting than this Black Swan pep talk bullshit.

Have you read The Black Swan? It's not a pep talk. It's all about how much of what affects us is out of our control. I suppose one could mope about this, but what Taleb says is to do things that will reward you if the unpredictable happens.

Persistence and effort, on the other hand, scales linearly - if you can iterate over 10 ideas instead of 1, you're 10 times as likely to succeed, no matter what your intelligence.

Incorrect. If you can generate one more idea than anyone else, you may be worth many times what they're worth--because to someone who desperately needs an idea, they're going to pay a huge premium to get the best person for the job. If you're buying market data in order to make high-frequency trades, the company that gets you information 1% faster isn't worth 1% more. It's worth almost infinitely more, since being the second person in the trade doesn't get you any profit.

Re: A Fixed Income Is a Sucker Bet

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post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Except they probably work every waking hour. There's no reason (especially if you're creative/artist) that you can't get the security of a 40 hour a week job and be creative the rest of the time.

In my experience, having a regular 40-hour-a-week job really destroys my creativity. There's more to being creative than just having some time to spend on creative projects; after doing lots of monotonous things for someone else I used to find myself completely unmotivated to do anything. I think this relates to the feeling among creative types that some business management types don't understand that creativity isn'…

Some notable counterexamples - Wallace Stevens (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wallace_Stevens) and Albert Einstein's time in the swiss patent office. Creativity is often defined by constraints, like lack of time.

Though my experience tends to agree with yours.

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