On a slight offtopic note, I wonder why Japanese websites are still stuck in the mid 90s to early year 2000 style. One example of this is the imageboard type of websites, which interestingly enough has caught on here in the US. I wonder if these better connectivity will bring more cross culture web designs or applications to both places.
Google Invests in $300M Submarine Cable to Improve Connection Between Japan, US
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Re: Google Invests in $300M Submarine Cable to Improve Connection Between Japan, US
#22I wonder what the difference is in the technology of the 3.3TB/s cable and the 60TB/c cable, just strands? (approx 20 more?)
This fiber was also relatively high loss and has a narrower core which leads to higher nonlinearities in the link. The old cable tries to keep the dispersion within the range that OOK technologies can operate error-free (post FEC) so there's a lot of it typical at each repeater (EDFA). The newer coherent optical technology can transmit multiple bits per symbol (BPSK, QPSK) by encoding the bits in the optical phase. Since the phase is recovered at the receiver the dispersion accumulated in the fiber can be undone in DSP with a long enough FIR filter. So the need for dispersion compensation is gone with coherent optical. Taking out the DCF also reduces loss along the link reducing EDFA (amplifier) count and increasing spacing. Also nonlinear penalties on the newer higher dispersion fiber are lower which improves something called cycle slips that can punch through the FEC and cause you to take post-FEC errors.
The net result is that you should be able to transmit QPSK at 32GBd in 2 polarizations in maybe 80 waves in each direction.
2bits x 2 polarizations x 32G ~128Gb/s per wave or nearly 11Tb/s for 1 fiber. If this cable has 6 strands, then it could easily meet the target transmission capacity.
Re: Google Invests in $300M Submarine Cable to Improve Connection Between Japan, US
#23I wonder what the difference is in the technology of the 3.3TB/s cable and the 60TB/c cable, just strands? (approx 20 more?)
That jumped out at me too. My wild guess is that the older fiber is a 10G system, the new one is 40G. From [1] > Unity cable system consists of eight fiber pairs, has design capacity up to 7.68 Tbps, with each fiber pair operating at 96x10G DWDM system. From [2] > the SJC cable system consists of 6 fiber pairs with the initial design capacity of 28 terabits per second, Taking a guess that there are 96x40Gb/s x 6 fibe…
EDIT: One caveat, depending on a particular link many of these systems will run at half-rate. A lot of legacy cables today are running BPSK at 50G in 2 waves (25G/wave) due to nonlinearities.
Re: Google Invests in $300M Submarine Cable to Improve Connection Between Japan, US
#24On a slight offtopic note, I wonder why Japanese websites are still stuck in the mid 90s to early year 2000 style. One example of this is the imageboard type of websites, which interestingly enough has caught on here in the US. I wonder if these better connectivity will bring more cross culture web designs or applications to both places.
A lot of stuff the Japanese do is from "back in the day" and there's a lot of group think that goes on there.
There's also not as much of a great sense of entrepreneurship or critical thinking going on there. Most people are like zombie's - wake up, get dressed, work until 7 or 8pm, take the subway or JR home, smoke or drink, socialize, repeat.
Re: Google Invests in $300M Submarine Cable to Improve Connection Between Japan, US
#25On a slight offtopic note, I wonder why Japanese websites are still stuck in the mid 90s to early year 2000 style. One example of this is the imageboard type of websites, which interestingly enough has caught on here in the US. I wonder if these better connectivity will bring more cross culture web designs or applications to both places.
I'm not sure if this is true though.
Re: Google Invests in $300M Submarine Cable to Improve Connection Between Japan, US
#26I say this without any knowledge of the profitability of such a venture, and as someone who does not live in Australia but who is familiar with the running joke that they have poor Internet: How about run a new cable, or two, to Australia?
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#27On a slight offtopic note, I wonder why Japanese websites are still stuck in the mid 90s to early year 2000 style. One example of this is the imageboard type of websites, which interestingly enough has caught on here in the US. I wonder if these better connectivity will bring more cross culture web designs or applications to both places.
A significant amount of internet use in Japan is via feature phones, with smart phones only catching on in the last few years. This limits the complexity of what can be displayed quite a bit. Similarly, the Japanese market tends to be significantly older than the rest of the world (http://www.statista.com/statistics/276045/age-distribution-o...) and resistance to change.
Re: Google Invests in $300M Submarine Cable to Improve Connection Between Japan, US
#28Obligatory link to "Mother Earth, Motherboard" whenever submarine cables are mentioned: http://archive.wired.com/wired/archive/4.12/ffglass.html Best 50 page article you'll read this year.
Well ok then
Re: Google Invests in $300M Submarine Cable to Improve Connection Between Japan, US
#29Earlier quoted context omitted.
The NEC press release says the total amount of investment across six different companies is approximately $300mm
You're right. The press release [0] does say "The total amount of investment for the FASTER system is estimated to be approximately USD $300 million". That would, however, make the title of this article wrong. I'm surprised Techcrunch made that big a mistake in their reporting. [0] http://www.nec.com/en/press/201408/global_20140811_01.html
Re: Google Invests in $300M Submarine Cable to Improve Connection Between Japan, US
#30I say this without any knowledge of the profitability of such a venture, and as someone who does not live in Australia but who is familiar with the running joke that they have poor Internet: How about run a new cable, or two, to Australia?
From what I understand, Australia's poor internet service is more due to poor ISPs and government meddling than the quality or quantity of the backbone.