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Re: Vancouver tech surges as U.S. immigration reform idles

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Post by blutoot »

bruceb wrote: post #49
exstudent wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And you know, everyone who's not xenophobic, enjoys living in a diverse community and philosophically believes people should be able to live wherever they want.

Pretty much every country has limits on immigration. It is hardly unique to the US. There are different cultures and traditions in the world. It takes for people to adjust to a new country and the country to adjust to them.

Actually white Americans don't seem to mind immigration from fellow white-majority countries, especially if it's from the developed ones. But that's an understandable phenomenon.

Re: Vancouver tech surges as U.S. immigration reform idles

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Post by adventured »

blutoot wrote: post #50
blutoot wrote: post #32

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Working for 6-7 years for the same employer is now considered "grinding away"??

Wow - this deserved a downvote?

You got down voted because it's the context of the 6-7 years, not the duration that matters.

Re: Vancouver tech surges as U.S. immigration reform idles

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Post by cesarbs »

jsolson wrote: post #11
enraged_camel wrote: post #6

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It's funny you bring up Seattle. Temperature is only one factor. Another big one is humidity. Seattle is the 7th most humid city in the US, which can make 45 degrees feel like 30 and 80 degrees feel like 95. This is why Seattle weather is miserable year around except for a fe weeks in late spring and early summer. Not to mention the constant rain, of course. Drizzle , they call it.

It actually is a constant drizzle, though only in the winter. Rarely do we get proper rain. It's one of the few things I miss from Atlanta's weather. Frankly, Seattle's climate really is very nice compared to much of the United States (say, the entire East Coast and the Midwest). It is not as nice as chunks of the California coast, but I'll take my lower cost of living over the Bay and my 15 minute commute over the t…

I've been living in Seattle for 1.5 years and I have a hard time with this "we rarely get proper rain" everyone says. I've seen proper rain countless times. Sometimes it really pours. I thought I'd be able to walk around in the drizzle and not get very wet, but my experience is that it's not really drizzle and I get soaked after a number of minutes outside.

Re: Vancouver tech surges as U.S. immigration reform idles

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Post by otoburb »

daviding wrote: post #12
jp555 wrote: post #7

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I imagine him then moving to California and rarely going outside. Vancouver weather is pretty close to London England, except sandwiched between an ocean and majestic mountain range.

Yep, I've lived 10 years London and now 10 years Vancouver and it's comparable. It's probably even nicer in Vancouver, as we have a ground pool and air conditioning here, while in London those were more of a rarity. Vancouver does get a very grey and miserable November, but the Spring/Summers are usually very good. It's a cliche, but I've often done the 'ski in the morning up the mountain, swim in the sea in the afte…

I miss looking north and seeing the mountains in Vancouver.

Re: Vancouver tech surges as U.S. immigration reform idles

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Post by [deleted] »

ambrood wrote: post #35
paul wrote: post #15

I think if we ever start a second YC location, this will be the reason -- to help founders who are unable to get past the US immigration system. It's unfortunate that our government is becoming increasingly dysfunctional at every level -- federal, state, and local governments are all failing to do their jobs. I'm glad that Canada is introducing some competitive pressure.

it is actually quite sad that things like "fairness for highly skilled immigrants" is held hostage to CIR.

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Re: Vancouver tech surges as U.S. immigration reform idles

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Post by cesarbs »

parennoob wrote: post #22

As someone in the Sisyphean green card system (processing taking forever for the initial application, 6-7 years to go after that for the actual green card, best case); I am really glad that Canada is offering better alternatives. I bet if they emphasize this angle (quicker permanent residency for non-contract employees), they will get a decent amount of talent that otherwise is stuck grinding away in Silicon Valley f…

My wife and I are seriously considering moving to Canada after she graduates from college. We love Washington, but the Green Card system is just awful. We estimate it will still take us 3-4 years till we get ours (we're Brazilians on EB-3 - side note: I never thought I'd regret dropping out from grad school, but now I do, every single day). Until then, our stay here is at the mercy of not getting laid off.

Re: Vancouver tech surges as U.S. immigration reform idles

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Post by x0x0 »

exstudent wrote: post #37
x0x0 wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you are referring to recent proposed visa changes, you appear to be defining dysfunctional as not passing visa programs very beneficial to a tiny group of people: incubators like YC, and owners / large investors in tech dependent startups. As not a member of those groups, that's quite a stretch.

And you know, everyone who's not xenophobic, enjoys living in a diverse community and philosophically believes people should be able to live wherever they want.

Claiming not wanting open borders == xenophobia is, well, good luck with that, champ.

Re: Vancouver tech surges as U.S. immigration reform idles

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Post by blutoot »

adventured wrote: post #52
blutoot wrote: post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Wow - this deserved a downvote?

You got down voted because it's the context of the 6-7 years, not the duration that matters.

And it's perfectly fine to disagree on that context. Using that as a reason to downvote a comment is pretty much an abuse of your downvoting power. But carry on.

Re: Vancouver tech surges as U.S. immigration reform idles

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Post by elchief »

jbarham wrote: post #18
Dewie wrote: post #2

> "I will not go to Canada," said the 25-year-old from Argentina of his initial reaction. "Twenty degrees below zero, are you crazy?" Perhaps the warmest major Canadian city, with a mild winter due to being coastal ('twenty degree below zero' - probably not).

Certainly Vancouver's winters are milder than anywhere east of the Rockies, but the flipside is that you have to put up with rain, rain and more rain. After living in Vancouver for five years I moved to southern California where the weather was fantastic. I'm now in Melbourne, Australia, which is considered by Aussies to have cold winters but as a Canadian I just laugh whenever I hear that. Apart from the weather I'd…

Hey, it only rains from November to April.

Also, rent isn't so crazy here, you just can't buy anything for a reasonable amount.

Re: Vancouver tech surges as U.S. immigration reform idles

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Post by _delirium »

ambrood wrote: post #35
paul wrote: post #15

I think if we ever start a second YC location, this will be the reason -- to help founders who are unable to get past the US immigration system. It's unfortunate that our government is becoming increasingly dysfunctional at every level -- federal, state, and local governments are all failing to do their jobs. I'm glad that Canada is introducing some competitive pressure.

it is actually quite sad that things like "fairness for highly skilled immigrants" is held hostage to CIR.

I don't think it's necessarily a bad strategy. The coalition to pass immigration reform is a mixture of immigration-rights activists on the left-ish side of the spectrum, and business advocates on the right-ish side of the spectrum. If you produce some cutouts narrowly addressing the staffing needs of some of the more influential businesses, they drop out of the coalition (because their own needs are satisfied) without the overall system having been really fixed.

(Plus, philosophically, I don't really support more H1B-type programs. If immigration is to be expanded, it should be proper immigration, not tied to employers, with a reasonable path to citizenship.)

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