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Lightspeed – A Browser Experiment

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Re: Lightspeed – A Browser Experiment

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Post by radicalbyte »

gioele wrote: post #30
jbardnz wrote: post #12

Pretty interesting video. A few things of note: -Tabs are important to almost all web users these days. Maybe you could hide them and display them on hover but I don't think you should ever move them an extra click away. -Not a huge fan of the click-to-play feature. Maybe it would work if you could whitelist plugins rather than websites, I guess you lose most of your security benefits by doing this though. I think he…

> Tabs are important to almost all web users these days Tabs would be a useless feature, if the window manager did a better job at what they should do. In a "tabbing" wm like the one BeOS has you are much better served by one-page-one-window application. With a bit of cooperation from the window manager you can get rid of tabs. I did it few years ago and my browsing behavior and habits have changed for the better.

Exactly. OSX kinda does this via virtual screens. You can swipe between them or press fn+f3 to get a pretty navigation UI between them.

It'd also make Windows 8 / Metro usable (along with a few other tweaks to make closing the metro-crap easier).

Re: Lightspeed – A Browser Experiment

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Post by masklinn »

yeukhon wrote: post #13

The no setting part is not really an option. No matter how simple you want to the browser to be, if you want this to be the one browser for the personal use, you need some settings. * setting search engine - this should be dead simple to implement and totally should be customized. I don't mind using Google but some people just don't like that. Actually I don't get why Firefox search engine customization is the way it…

> A user click on "manage search engine preference", press "Add", gives a URL of the search engine (e.g. https://google.com) and then OK. Firefox should just take whatever user types into the search bar / address bar

That means you don't ever get suggestions or autocompletion in the search bar.

> I can even imagine this useful when I want firefox to do code search. Imagine instead of me going to dxr.mozilla.org to find the code I want, now I just need to set the search engine to http://dxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/search?= yay!

So you go into firefox, switch the search engine, type your query, then switch the search engine back because dxr makes no sense as a default? You know you can add keyword shortcuts to search engines and just type `dxr query` to send the query to dxr right?

Hell, you don't even have to set up a search engine: create a bookmark for "http://dxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/search?=%s", add a keyword e.g. !dxr then type "!dxr $query" in your address bar.

Re: Lightspeed – A Browser Experiment

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Post by nsmartt »

yarou wrote: post #33

The design choices really look interesting. But shouldn't Mozilla focus more on eliminating the ever persistent memory leak bug that has plagued it since forever? I can't even use Firefox on a netbook. I end up installing Midori.

Mozilla is comprised of a lot of different people working on a lot of different things. There are people focusing on various memory and speed issues, but they can't (and shouldn't) allocate all their resources to focusing on just a few issues.

Re: Lightspeed – A Browser Experiment

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Post by sdrothrock »

bane wrote: post #9

At first I thought "oh no, another distraction for Mozilla", but then I sat through the presentation and thought there was some really cool ideas (amazebar!). In fact, I think it can be simplified and paired down even more. Even better, some of the assumptions here even make the software portable (as in doesn't really need to be installed and could just run off a usb drive/out of my dropbox). Automatically being in a…

> Frequent usage should just percolate autocomplete suggestions to the top. This design doesn't really need them, and tbh I've barely used bookmarks in any browser in a long time.

BECAUSE address bars autocomplete sites I frequently go to, the bookmarks end up being a way to store sites that I go to /infrequently/ and use for reference or only check up on every few months.

Re: Lightspeed – A Browser Experiment

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Post by murali89 »

I don't know why this is getting up votes. This looks like a browser for bimbos. No, seriously. I don't want the browser telling me what sites to go to and while doing that, blocking my view when the address bar is in focus. 10 minutes (well, 6) wasted!

Re: Lightspeed – A Browser Experiment

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Post by insky »

gioele wrote: post #30
jbardnz wrote: post #12

Pretty interesting video. A few things of note: -Tabs are important to almost all web users these days. Maybe you could hide them and display them on hover but I don't think you should ever move them an extra click away. -Not a huge fan of the click-to-play feature. Maybe it would work if you could whitelist plugins rather than websites, I guess you lose most of your security benefits by doing this though. I think he…

> Tabs are important to almost all web users these days Tabs would be a useless feature, if the window manager did a better job at what they should do. In a "tabbing" wm like the one BeOS has you are much better served by one-page-one-window application. With a bit of cooperation from the window manager you can get rid of tabs. I did it few years ago and my browsing behavior and habits have changed for the better.

Exactly, this is window managment territory. I think that tabs came about with Opera because they were essentially cheap windows, and as window management has been so dire on most mainstream OSs, tabs were really welcome. But at the end of the day, I think tabs like ephemeral/temporary bookmarks - and it's the bookmark part of the browser that sucks.
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