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Lightspeed – A Browser Experiment

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Re: Lightspeed – A Browser Experiment

#22
I like the idea, although really this is very similar to Chrome (and other browsers) where you just never open the settings tab. Except for the search bar, this is just one of today's browsers with tweaked defaults.

I really don't see the disadvantage, minus the small developer overhead, of having all the choices they have made here configurable.

Re: Lightspeed – A Browser Experiment

#23
post #9

At first I thought "oh no, another distraction for Mozilla", but then I sat through the presentation and thought there was some really cool ideas (amazebar!). In fact, I think it can be simplified and paired down even more. Even better, some of the assumptions here even make the software portable (as in doesn't really need to be installed and could just run off a usb drive/out of my dropbox). Automatically being in a…

> - please don't default to a "downloads" folder. I switched my default download directory to /tmp and haven't looked back.

But the whole point is that this browser isn't meant for technical people. It's not meant for the kind of people that feel the need for a different `Downloads` folder.

Re: Lightspeed – A Browser Experiment

#24

> Auto-updates are always on I really hope this isn't going to become a standard thing. There are still plenty of people like me who are stuck with something like satellite internet, which forces us to micromanage our data usage. I can't afford to just have things auto-updating whenever they want.

It was the default in Chrome, and I believe its the default in IE as well.

It has its upsides as well, you generally only need to target the latest stable version of Chrome.

Re: Lightspeed – A Browser Experiment

#25
post #9

At first I thought "oh no, another distraction for Mozilla", but then I sat through the presentation and thought there was some really cool ideas (amazebar!). In fact, I think it can be simplified and paired down even more. Even better, some of the assumptions here even make the software portable (as in doesn't really need to be installed and could just run off a usb drive/out of my dropbox). Automatically being in a…

I agree with not defaulting to saving downloads in the "downloads" folder. Many people don't really know how to use their file manager. (For years, my mom would open Microsoft Word and organize files there.)

Why not default to saving downloads on the Desktop? Where did that file get saved? Oh, there it is!

Re: Lightspeed – A Browser Experiment

#26
post #9

At first I thought "oh no, another distraction for Mozilla", but then I sat through the presentation and thought there was some really cool ideas (amazebar!). In fact, I think it can be simplified and paired down even more. Even better, some of the assumptions here even make the software portable (as in doesn't really need to be installed and could just run off a usb drive/out of my dropbox). Automatically being in a…

> - please don't default to a "downloads" folder. I switched my default download directory to /tmp and haven't looked back.

I'd think /tmp by default would make sense, effectively your downloaded files would live inside Firefox itself, ready for you to drag/save them out. It's in line with where modern computing is going, making the filesystem less relevant by the day.

Re: Lightspeed – A Browser Experiment

#27
post #25
post #9

At first I thought "oh no, another distraction for Mozilla", but then I sat through the presentation and thought there was some really cool ideas (amazebar!). In fact, I think it can be simplified and paired down even more. Even better, some of the assumptions here even make the software portable (as in doesn't really need to be installed and could just run off a usb drive/out of my dropbox). Automatically being in a…

I agree with not defaulting to saving downloads in the "downloads" folder. Many people don't really know how to use their file manager. (For years, my mom would open Microsoft Word and organize files there.) Why not default to saving downloads on the Desktop? Where did that file get saved? Oh, there it is!

I used to think that too. But then, why have a Downloads folder if you're not going to put Downloads in there? I agree that every once in a while you have to do some cleaning, but that's on the user.

Re: Lightspeed – A Browser Experiment

#28

> Auto-updates are always on I really hope this isn't going to become a standard thing. There are still plenty of people like me who are stuck with something like satellite internet, which forces us to micromanage our data usage. I can't afford to just have things auto-updating whenever they want.

> I really hope this isn't going to become a standard thing.

I think people are starting to realize that you cannot always live on the bleeding edge, even then the edge is not that sharp.

IIRC Firefox ESRs (extended support releases) do not update automatically. Or they update automatically but only to other infrequent ESRs.

Re: Lightspeed – A Browser Experiment

#29

> Auto-updates are always on I really hope this isn't going to become a standard thing. There are still plenty of people like me who are stuck with something like satellite internet, which forces us to micromanage our data usage. I can't afford to just have things auto-updating whenever they want.

I too micromanage my data and pay for overages. Firefox updates, assuming you don't skip them, are actually quite reasonably sized, averaging about 10MB a month for me over the last few of years, both major version revs and minor security updates combined. I consider my online security worth those 10MB because I've never been able to manage my bandwidth to the kind of precision where 10MB one way or the other would have made a meaningful distance in my bill.

Re: Lightspeed – A Browser Experiment

#30
post #12

Pretty interesting video. A few things of note: -Tabs are important to almost all web users these days. Maybe you could hide them and display them on hover but I don't think you should ever move them an extra click away. -Not a huge fan of the click-to-play feature. Maybe it would work if you could whitelist plugins rather than websites, I guess you lose most of your security benefits by doing this though. I think he…

> Tabs are important to almost all web users these days

Tabs would be a useless feature, if the window manager did a better job at what they should do. In a "tabbing" wm like the one BeOS has you are much better served by one-page-one-window application.

With a bit of cooperation from the window manager you can get rid of tabs. I did it few years ago and my browsing behavior and habits have changed for the better.

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