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Re: Building the Firefox browser for Firefox OS

#11
I really wish Mozilla would put the resources currently behind Firefox OS and use them for something like a modern libgecko and standalone gecko wrapper that runs on different environments instead of making an OS.

The blink/webkit monoculture is causing issues but every app is embedding it because gecko as a platform for embedding is essentially dead.

Re: Building the Firefox browser for Firefox OS

#12
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> If you think about purchasing a device don't. the work so far can all be done with emulator. DO NOT BUY A DEVICE. and as the parent just said, the performance on the emulator is MUCH better than the real device. it is just more waste in the world. Also, if anyone want a couple firefox phones msg me. i have a couple left. i got them when i believed that since they were going to be sold in stores, they would be consu…

I've been building my ZTE Open since pretty close to its initially release. I also use it as my daily device. Also, I think this is your 3rd time(in my recent memory) derailing a Firefox OS thread to talk about how there are no phones in stores etc. Are you an astro turfer or are you just really angry at Mozilla for some reason?

> Also, I think this is your 3rd time(in my recent memory) derailing a Firefox OS thread to talk about how there are no phones in stores etc. Are you an astro turfer or are you just really angry at Mozilla for some reason?

I'm sorry but he's right. The OS is not good, the phones are not powerful, they are barely available and because they are web based they have no unique selling point over any other platform.

You can get more powerful Android phones for cheaper and they run more stuff.

Re: Building the Firefox browser for Firefox OS

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I've been building my ZTE Open since pretty close to its initially release. I also use it as my daily device. Also, I think this is your 3rd time(in my recent memory) derailing a Firefox OS thread to talk about how there are no phones in stores etc. Are you an astro turfer or are you just really angry at Mozilla for some reason?

> Also, I think this is your 3rd time(in my recent memory) derailing a Firefox OS thread to talk about how there are no phones in stores etc. Are you an astro turfer or are you just really angry at Mozilla for some reason? I'm sorry but he's right. The OS is not good, the phones are not powerful, they are barely available and because they are web based they have no unique selling point over any other platform. You ca…

But what does any of that have to do with the process of designing and developing Firefox OS? You also just kind of seem like an astroturfer. Android was not mentioned anywhere in that article as far as I could tell. Why are you posting that here?

Re: Building the Firefox browser for Firefox OS

#14

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> Also, I think this is your 3rd time(in my recent memory) derailing a Firefox OS thread to talk about how there are no phones in stores etc. Are you an astro turfer or are you just really angry at Mozilla for some reason? I'm sorry but he's right. The OS is not good, the phones are not powerful, they are barely available and because they are web based they have no unique selling point over any other platform. You ca…

But what does any of that have to do with the process of designing and developing Firefox OS? You also just kind of seem like an astroturfer. Android was not mentioned anywhere in that article as far as I could tell. Why are you posting that here?

> But what does any of that have to do with the process of designing and developing Firefox OS? [...] Android was not mentioned anywhere in that article

The thread (if you have missed it) was about Firefox OS devices and how a person was recommending against buying a device. I agree with this sentiment and was mentioning that there are cheaper Android devices which are a better purchase.

> You also just kind of seem like an astroturfer.

Take off your tinfoil hat. Just accept that some people do not like Firefox OS or the devices.

Re: Building the Firefox browser for Firefox OS

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> If you think about purchasing a device don't. the work so far can all be done with emulator. DO NOT BUY A DEVICE. and as the parent just said, the performance on the emulator is MUCH better than the real device. it is just more waste in the world. Also, if anyone want a couple firefox phones msg me. i have a couple left. i got them when i believed that since they were going to be sold in stores, they would be consu…

100% spot on. Too many features missing. The flashing procedure is problematic as well (for the ZTE "open" C you need a custom patch found in a bug report, and you have to be extremely carefull not to brick the device.) I purchased a ZTE Open C just to try out Firefox and the internet browsing experience. You can't change tabs unless you scroll all the way to the top, otherwise the address bar is hidden. Needless to…

That is confusing. The behavior is similar/equal to the Android Firefox: Scroll down, address bar goes off-screen. Want it back? Scroll a small amount up, albeit rapidly. Think 'pull down' on the content.

Did you mias that (we can argue about whether that's intuitive) or does that plain not work for you? Scrolling back to the top should definitely be unnecessary..

Works just fine for me (typing on Android, in Aurora).

Re: Building the Firefox browser for Firefox OS

#16
>I tried adding features to the browser app and every time I found something that wasn’t possible with current web technologies, I went back to Justin to get him to cast a new magic spell.

As someone who working on a project that is beyond your average webapp [1][2], That is one of the most infuriating things to read. I need a Magic Justin! Where can you get a Magic Justin?

[1] http://i.imgur.com/cLcirMy.jpg [2] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHwNxDWwuY4

Re: Building the Firefox browser for Firefox OS

#17
post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> If you think about purchasing a device don't. the work so far can all be done with emulator. DO NOT BUY A DEVICE. and as the parent just said, the performance on the emulator is MUCH better than the real device. it is just more waste in the world. Also, if anyone want a couple firefox phones msg me. i have a couple left. i got them when i believed that since they were going to be sold in stores, they would be consu…

I've been building my ZTE Open since pretty close to its initially release. I also use it as my daily device. Also, I think this is your 3rd time(in my recent memory) derailing a Firefox OS thread to talk about how there are no phones in stores etc. Are you an astro turfer or are you just really angry at Mozilla for some reason?

>I've been building my ZTE Open since pretty close to its initially release. I also use it as my daily device.

I bought a ZTE Open off of ebay back in April. My Nexus 4 broke in July. I have been using the ZTE Open as my daily device since.

I built from source (Boot2Gecko 1.4.0.0-prerelease) and, from my experience:

- Sometimes when I open an MMS message and click the back button, my phone reboots - If I open a content-heavy webpage or app the app will force close - Sometimes when I'm scrolling through the gallery app my phone freezes - Sometimes my handset earpiece doesn't work and I have to make calls on speakerphone - Sometimes the camera app freezes after taking a picture

Now, I'm not sure if these are issues with the ZTE Open's specs, the state of the build I flashed, or the method in which I flashed it, but those are my daily struggles using the phone.

That being said, as a phone (phone calls + sms + mms) it works, mostly.

I haven't been keeping it updated though. I should build the most recent and flash it soon.

Re: Building the Firefox browser for Firefox OS

#18

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But what does any of that have to do with the process of designing and developing Firefox OS? You also just kind of seem like an astroturfer. Android was not mentioned anywhere in that article as far as I could tell. Why are you posting that here?

> But what does any of that have to do with the process of designing and developing Firefox OS? [...] Android was not mentioned anywhere in that article The thread (if you have missed it) was about Firefox OS devices and how a person was recommending against buying a device. I agree with this sentiment and was mentioning that there are cheaper Android devices which are a better purchase. > You also just kind of seem…

This thread was originally about someone telling their experience with the phone that Firefox OS is developed and tested against. This was an article about developing Firefox OS which is done on the device discussed in the start of the thread. That is relevant information to someone who might be interested in getting involved in designing and developing Firefox OS which was what the article was about.

No where in the start of this thread or in the article did it involve which system is the best, nor did it ever even mention Android, iOS etc etc.

Re: Building the Firefox browser for Firefox OS

#19
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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> If you think about purchasing a device don't. the work so far can all be done with emulator. DO NOT BUY A DEVICE. and as the parent just said, the performance on the emulator is MUCH better than the real device. it is just more waste in the world. Also, if anyone want a couple firefox phones msg me. i have a couple left. i got them when i believed that since they were going to be sold in stores, they would be consu…

100% spot on. Too many features missing. The flashing procedure is problematic as well (for the ZTE "open" C you need a custom patch found in a bug report, and you have to be extremely carefull not to brick the device.) I purchased a ZTE Open C just to try out Firefox and the internet browsing experience. You can't change tabs unless you scroll all the way to the top, otherwise the address bar is hidden. Needless to…

Funny you should mention that. It is the top thread right now on the dev-gaia mailing list.

https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/mozilla.dev.gaia/QP7...

Re: Building the Firefox browser for Firefox OS

#20
post #5

Love some Firefox OS exposure. I'm a fan, really want to see the idea/project to succeed. If you think about purchasing a device, here's my take. - the Flame feels really solid and looks quite nice. - the performance is nice/comparable to other platforms - current version (running from git here) of the OS looks nice and modern - it is trivial to build and install it (given a supported device ofc) Ultimately it's not…

> If you think about purchasing a device don't. the work so far can all be done with emulator. DO NOT BUY A DEVICE. and as the parent just said, the performance on the emulator is MUCH better than the real device. it is just more waste in the world. Also, if anyone want a couple firefox phones msg me. i have a couple left. i got them when i believed that since they were going to be sold in stores, they would be consu…

You don't say what country you're in. If it's easy to ship the phone to UK (preferred) or US (I'll get it eventually) then get in touch.

You don't have any contact details in your profile, so it's not possible to message you privately.

(Or if anyone wants to give me a Firefox phone I'd be immensely grateful)

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