Navdy: HUD for your car • Hacker News Board

Re: Navdy: HUD for your car

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Post by fixedd » Wed, Aug 06, 2014, 4:48 PM UTC

brk wrote: post #200

"Shipping early 2015. We will charge your credit card immediately upon pre-order." When it did become legal (or even advisable) to charge a credit card more than 30 days in advance of shipment? Given all the kickstarter hardware startup fiascos, there is NO way I'm paying for a piece of technology this complex 4+ months in advance of estimated delivery times. I'm fully expecting to see "Where is my Navdy!!!?!?!" thre…

It's always been legal (in the US) as long as they tell you when they WILL ship (or within 30 days, if no timeframe is promised). It's against the merchant contract with most (all?) major credit card providers though.

Re: Navdy: HUD for your car

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Post by nnnnni » Wed, Aug 06, 2014, 5:06 PM UTC

drbawb wrote: post #203

nnnnni wrote: post #182

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You must have a magical car that has absolutely no blind spots! Which one is it? I'd like to consider purchasing one as my next car. My current car will give warnings if it sees cross traffic approaching when in reverse. It has warned me a few times when someone is driving way too quickly through a parking lot and my view has been blocked by parked cars. Things like this are REALLY useful. You just don't realize how…

Out of curiosity what car is that? I've seen a lot of blind spot/collision avoidance stuff but I don't think I've seen any sort of "cross traffic" detection yet. Just the other day my friend drove past someone who was actively backing out a big SUV. As we drive past our car is well below the level of the SUVs rear window. I just thought to myself: "he's incredibly lucky the SUV even saw him."

In this case, it was a Ford Escape. It has proximity sensors all around -- it'll also tell you when someone is in your blind spot in a neighboring lane.

Re: Navdy: HUD for your car

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Post by supernova87a » Wed, Aug 06, 2014, 5:58 PM UTC

HUD is a reasonable tool to augment driving information. It makes sense for maps, directions, vehicle alerts.

Using it to make texting and other non-driving related functions more accessible is a slippery slope towards driver distraction and pretty directly linkable liability for this company.

Re: Navdy: HUD for your car

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Post by nzealand » Wed, Aug 06, 2014, 6:05 PM UTC

declan wrote: post #210

I'm a pilot and was surprised that the Navdy video invoked the "pilots use it -- it's safe" language. Um, when I'm flying a plane, I don't: - have other 4,000-lb planes 3' away that I could collide with after a moment's distraction - compose tweets by speaking aloud while staring at a screen, and then when the voice recognition system doesn't work properly, have to retry multiple times while staring at the screen - t…

I see a lot of folks holding their iPhone while driving on congested freeways.

They hold the phones down low, to avoid tickets.

I feel Navdy is an improvement on those situations, but I still don't like where things are headed.

Re: Navdy: HUD for your car

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Post by daphreak » Wed, Aug 06, 2014, 6:07 PM UTC

Great. Now hackers will have a connection to my car.

If they are using the CAN connection on ODB-II then I'm connecting my car to the internet. Sure, most cars only put non-critical stuff on that particular bus but I don't want script kiddies turning on my radio or flashing my lights while I'm driving.

Hopefully its not required and I can just make a power only cable.

Re: Navdy: HUD for your car

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Post by supernova87a » Wed, Aug 06, 2014, 8:49 PM UTC

HUD is a reasonable tool to augment driving information. It makes sense for maps, directions, vehicle alerts.

Using it to make texting and other non-driving related functions more accessible is a slippery slope towards driver distraction and pretty directly linkable liability for this company.

Re: Navdy: HUD for your car

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Post by adambutler » Wed, Aug 06, 2014, 9:18 PM UTC

state wrote: post #91

It's the same actor from the Coin video [1]. How strange. 1 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w9Sx34swEG0

I think he might be the guy on the 1Password video too

Re: Navdy: HUD for your car

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Post by mbreese » Wed, Aug 06, 2014, 9:36 PM UTC

mrfusion wrote: post #71

mbreese wrote: post #69

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Siri does read it back to you... at least she does to me when I'm using my handsfree setup in the car. "Your message to PERSON says SIRI-MANGLED-MESSAGE. Would you like to send it?" You can send or change it by voice.

Hmm, so you're saying bluetooth triggers that?

I'm not sure what triggers it... but when I'm in my car, Siri reads things back to me. So I don't know if it applies equally to bluetooth headsets or hands-free mode in my car. I don't know enough about Bluetooth profiles to say without some extra Googling.

Re: Navdy: HUD for your car

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Post by retroencabulato » Thu, Aug 07, 2014, 3:15 AM UTC

gr3yh47 wrote: post #179

tshile wrote: post #92

Using a HUD to read/write texts/tweets? It seems like the creators missed all the studies about the dangers of distracted driving. And pilots use HUD's so this must be safe? That would potentially hold water, if the pilots were using huds to tweet, text, and select music while landing... instead they're using huds to display important information... I like the technology, I just don't like the suggested use cases for…

i also have to call bs on the 2m focus. it's 2 feet, your eyes will converge at 2ft, and the road behind will become out of focus

I can't speak for this product, but the Boeing HUDs do exactly this: to see the display clearly you need to focus at infinity. That is why they are so useful.

Re: Navdy: HUD for your car

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Post by lsiebert » Thu, Aug 07, 2014, 1:52 PM UTC

Hmm... seems to lack a gps. Given that it's running android, it would be nice if it used it's position and size to have a better gps antenna then your phone. Also it could totally store offline maps for when you can't access the network.