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Navdy: HUD for your car

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Re: Navdy: HUD for your car

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Just need to share my first reaction... Your hero image with an example of a HUD should probably not be a prompt to watch a video. That's just about the most dangerous thing that a HUD could ask you to do.

It's just a cute way of them prompting visitors to watch the video, using the software they built (showing off the message feature).

Though I guess you can say that if you saw it that way, it is still reason to change that, to avoid confusion.

Re: Navdy: HUD for your car

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To be honest this is sort of how I felt when I got my first iPhone. I was downtown in a very busy urban center that I absolutely hate navigating. I was so happy to have an iPhone that was aiding me through the maze of one-way streets; for once I wouldn't be late for my rendezvous. Just then: the person I was picking up decided to call me. iOS decided that a phone call was more important than driving, so it displayed…

Sooo... you're upset your phone behaves like a phone?

Upset that a smartphone behaves like a single-purpose landline? Certainly. I believe a fullscreen dialer is terrible UX.

Smartphones are very rarely marketed _as phones._ They are marketed based on differentiating features: everyone knows that the flagship Androids and the iPhone are plenty good at making calls.

This leads you to sell the device based on it's lifestyle features: like Siri, or Google Now. Often they are touted for their entertainment capabilities, or marketed as portable media players.

These devices are sold as though _they're more than a phone._ So I don't think it's entirely unrealistic to expect the dialer to be designed to cooperate with other apps.

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My phone has more CPU cores, more RAM, and more storage than many netbooks. So I find it a bit strange that Skype on my netbook doesn't demand my full attention, but Skype on my phone not only demands it, _ but commands it._

Re: Navdy: HUD for your car

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But I already have all that information. And I dont have any HUD or other displays anywhere. I can see the speed of traffic Im merging into, pedestrians, change of speed/flow of traffic ahead of me, and if a pedestrian appears to be willing to cross infront of me. Without even having to think about it, I can just notice when there is emergency vehicles around or construction vehicles or any other danger-sign on the r…

You must have a magical car that has absolutely no blind spots! Which one is it? I'd like to consider purchasing one as my next car. My current car will give warnings if it sees cross traffic approaching when in reverse. It has warned me a few times when someone is driving way too quickly through a parking lot and my view has been blocked by parked cars. Things like this are REALLY useful. You just don't realize how…

Out of curiosity what car is that? I've seen a lot of blind spot/collision avoidance stuff but I don't think I've seen any sort of "cross traffic" detection yet.

Just the other day my friend drove past someone who was actively backing out a big SUV.

As we drive past our car is well below the level of the SUVs rear window. I just thought to myself: "he's incredibly lucky the SUV even saw him."

Re: Navdy: HUD for your car

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You must have a magical car that has absolutely no blind spots! Which one is it? I'd like to consider purchasing one as my next car. My current car will give warnings if it sees cross traffic approaching when in reverse. It has warned me a few times when someone is driving way too quickly through a parking lot and my view has been blocked by parked cars. Things like this are REALLY useful. You just don't realize how…

Out of curiosity what car is that? I've seen a lot of blind spot/collision avoidance stuff but I don't think I've seen any sort of "cross traffic" detection yet. Just the other day my friend drove past someone who was actively backing out a big SUV. As we drive past our car is well below the level of the SUVs rear window. I just thought to myself: "he's incredibly lucky the SUV even saw him."

I have a 2010 Chrysler Town and Country that has such a feature. It's an extension of the "blind-spot" feature that is only active during reverse. It's saved me a couple of times in crowded parking lots with impatient and fast drivers.

Re: Navdy: HUD for your car

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Using a HUD to read/write texts/tweets? It seems like the creators missed all the studies about the dangers of distracted driving. And pilots use HUD's so this must be safe? That would potentially hold water, if the pilots were using huds to tweet, text, and select music while landing... instead they're using huds to display important information... I like the technology, I just don't like the suggested use cases for…

This should be banned. Really. I don't want this on the same road as my loved ones. When you are driving, you are driving. Not reading/tweeting. Even more, mounting "something" to the front window is illegal in a lot of places in the world [1]. At least Netherlands and U.S. In The Netherlands operating a phone while driving (voice operated carkit exempt) gives you a ~$250 fine. Furthermore, obstructing part of your w…

Actually, it's not only legal in California, the state recently banned devices that get stuck to the windshield and mandates that such devices need to be placed and secured on the dashboard.

Obviously, the law doesn't say anything about HUDs, and it will probably take a few years for legislation to catch up with technology in that area.

Re: Navdy: HUD for your car

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"Shipping early 2015. We will charge your credit card immediately upon pre-order." When it did become legal (or even advisable) to charge a credit card more than 30 days in advance of shipment? Given all the kickstarter hardware startup fiascos, there is NO way I'm paying for a piece of technology this complex 4+ months in advance of estimated delivery times. I'm fully expecting to see "Where is my Navdy!!!?!?!" thre…

I'm not sure why there would be anything illegal about charging a card so early (in any jurisdiction I'm familiar with, at least) but it's certainly considered bad practice where I am and the related payment services would likely not be happy if they knew it was happening, not least due to the high risk of chargebacks.

Re: Navdy: HUD for your car

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> anything that takes attention from driving like showing text messages is a terrible idea and should be banned So advertisements beside roads should be banned?

In Germany advertisments beside the Autobahn are banned.

They're completely banned on the Autobahn and even on normal roads all ads have to be approved.

Re: Navdy: HUD for your car

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post #137
post #112

Earlier quoted context omitted.

To be honest this is sort of how I felt when I got my first iPhone. I was downtown in a very busy urban center that I absolutely hate navigating. I was so happy to have an iPhone that was aiding me through the maze of one-way streets; for once I wouldn't be late for my rendezvous. Just then: the person I was picking up decided to call me. iOS decided that a phone call was more important than driving, so it displayed…

Sooo... you're upset your phone behaves like a phone?

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Re: Navdy: HUD for your car

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I'm a pilot and was surprised that the Navdy video invoked the "pilots use it -- it's safe" language.

Um, when I'm flying a plane, I don't:

- have other 4,000-lb planes 3' away that I could collide with after a moment's distraction

- compose tweets by speaking aloud while staring at a screen, and then when the voice recognition system doesn't work properly, have to retry multiple times while staring at the screen

- talk on the phone to my mother

- play music while navigating through crowded airspace (some pilots do on longer cross-country trips, of course)

- need to have my airspeed projected in front of me (maybe on takeoff it would be useful)

- have apps pop up notifications directly in my field of vision when I'm trying to focus on one of those 4,000-lb objects that's about to collide with me

- have some of those other 4,000-lb objects near me controlled by people who are composing tweets, etc. rather than focusing on the task of flying

What I do want to be doing is scanning the airspace around me for other planes, scanning my instruments to make sure all is well, etc...

Navdy seems like a good HUD implementation from a technological standpoint, and unlike other folks here I don't think it should be banned. But assuring everyone it's safe because "pilots use it" seems like a statement made without, well, talking to pilots first.

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