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Re: Navdy: HUD for your car

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Post by mikeash »

Sami_Lehtinen wrote: post #167
mikeash wrote: post #104

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Additionally, pilots rarely need second-by-second reactions. There are times when you do, and you want to maintain awareness, but the odds of crashing because you took 15 seconds to look at a map are extremely low. The odds of crashing because you're focusing on details and forget to keep track of where you are or how much fuel you have or other long-term items are much higher. The requirements for awareness in a car…

Well, taking changes is not the point. There are two pilots, at least one of them should be looking out all the time, doing scanning. It's unfortunate when two airliners collide, because nobody was watching where they're flying. It has been happening. Even in situations when both planes have been already warned about the precense of other planes. Problem with planes is really high speed, so the plane can be just a pi…

A lot of airplanes only have one pilot.

It comes down to probabilities. While driving, stare at a map for 15 seconds. What are the odds that you crash? Probably quite high. Better than 50/50, I'd say. Now, when flying, stare at a map for 15 seconds. What are the odds that you crash? It's not zero, but it's close.

Re: Navdy: HUD for your car

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Post by mikeash »

jcdavis wrote: post #87
smackfu wrote: post #85

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There are pins for battery ground and battery power (12V). Depending on the car, it might be tied to the ignition, or it might not.

yea, I'm just surprised they have enough current to power a projector + arm cpu + fan.

My car's 12V system warns me to limit use to 120W. That's for the "cigarette lighter" ports, but the OBDII power pin is probably similar if not on the same circuit. That'll run a lot of crap.

Re: Navdy: HUD for your car

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Post by rrrx3 »

Domenic_S wrote: post #105
balabaster wrote: post #60

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I've had more near misses in my car caused by distractions from other people physically inside the car than when I'm physically alone - that includes all forms of social interaction via a mobile device. To count the accidents I've been involved in or had near misses, virtually all of them have been caused by someone in my vehicle causing me take my eyes off the road at just the wrong moment - because instinct can cau…

> near misses So, hits?

Oh look, captain pedant has arrived.

Re: Navdy: HUD for your car

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Post by antocv »

alandarev wrote: post #171
antocv wrote: post #159

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But I already have all that information. And I dont have any HUD or other displays anywhere. I can see the speed of traffic Im merging into, pedestrians, change of speed/flow of traffic ahead of me, and if a pedestrian appears to be willing to cross infront of me. Without even having to think about it, I can just notice when there is emergency vehicles around or construction vehicles or any other danger-sign on the r…

Where are you residing? I am sure the rest of the world could learn from crash-free place you live in. In my 18's I though the same, why all those precautions? I can write SMS and not kill anyone! Truth is, I was lucky not to run into emergency situation while being distracted by mobile. There is very little risk in regular circumstances, but when unlikely events overlap bad things happen. Blown tire on a motorway, c…

Im residing in one of the best places for traffic safety after decades of work towards "0 traffic deaths per year goal".

I dont fiddle with my phone when in the car - there is a holder for it on the dashboard so I can see and hear it clearly when GPS/GoogleMaps is on.

Running into an emergency situation and having different color lights or other information on any windshield would be disaster.

Ive been in emergency situations many times, in other countries and one which I believe has the most unsafe roads in the world. Escaped many though situations.

And Ive also hardly survived a frontal crash with another car (in the safe country), I was going 70km/h and other one was equal or faster. I wouldnt recommend adding more information than already present for a human brain to take decisions on. That information can be fed to a computer to take decisions when cars become self-driving.

But yeah HUD is cool. I would use it to show the speedometer higher up than it is right now.

Re: Navdy: HUD for your car

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Post by danielweber »

CamperBob2 wrote: post #108
tshile wrote: post #92

Using a HUD to read/write texts/tweets? It seems like the creators missed all the studies about the dangers of distracted driving. And pilots use HUD's so this must be safe? That would potentially hold water, if the pilots were using huds to tweet, text, and select music while landing... instead they're using huds to display important information... I like the technology, I just don't like the suggested use cases for…

The very first image at the top of the page just sends chills down my spine. "Check out this rad video!" while I'm about to drive past a row of parked cars in a busy urban area. How about "No?" Is "No" supported?

They put a fair bit of money into their homepage. I'm wondering why they decided that the first use case would be video sharing. Holy cow.

The nav system is great. They should have led with that.

Re: Navdy: HUD for your car

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Post by uptown »

weavie wrote: post #187
uptown wrote: post #186

States have laws regarding this stuff. So let's look at California, where this company is based: California Video Screen Restriction Hands-free Cell Phone Use Only Ban on Texting While Driving Restrictions on Cell Phone Use for Novice Drivers and School Bus Drivers Law: Prohibits any person from driving a motor vehicle if a video monitor, or a video screen or any other similar device that displays a video signal is o…

> Law: Prohibits any person from driving a motor vehicle if a video monitor, or a video screen or any other similar device that displays a video signal is operating and is located forward of the driver's seat or is visible to the driver. Provides exceptions for emergency equipment. Statute: California Vehicle Code §2890 (West 2004) Penalties: No Penalty Specified. Really? So are Sat Navs banned in California?

There's more information here:

https://www.dmv.ca.gov/pubs/vctop/d12/vc27602.htm

Excerpt:

27602. (a) A person shall not drive a motor vehicle if a television receiver, a video monitor, or a television or video screen, or any other similar means of visually displaying a television broadcast or video signal that produces entertainment or business applications, is operating and is located in the motor vehicle at a point forward of the back of the driver’s seat, or is operating and the monitor, screen, or display is visible to the driver while driving the motor vehicle.

(b) Subdivision (a) does not apply to the following equipment when installed in a vehicle:

(1) A vehicle information display.

(2) A global positioning display.

(3) A mapping display.

(4) A visual display used to enhance or supplement the driver's view forward, behind, or to the sides of a motor vehicle for the purpose of maneuvering the vehicle.

So a GPS display .... even heads-up ... should be fine. But if you start showing video messages of your friend from Instagram, then you're probably going to violate the existing laws.

Re: Navdy: HUD for your car

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Post by brk »

"Shipping early 2015. We will charge your credit card immediately upon pre-order."

When it did become legal (or even advisable) to charge a credit card more than 30 days in advance of shipment?

Given all the kickstarter hardware startup fiascos, there is NO way I'm paying for a piece of technology this complex 4+ months in advance of estimated delivery times. I'm fully expecting to see "Where is my Navdy!!!?!?!" threads around about this time next year.

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