China Said to Exclude Apple From Procurement List
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China Said to Exclude Apple From Procurement List
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Re: China Said to Exclude Apple From Procurement List
#2I wonder if this isn't also an attempt to force Apple to give China access to the iOS and OS X source code.
Similar tactics were used in the past to force Microsoft to give the Chinese government access to Windows source code through the China Information Technology Security Certification Center (CNITSEC) Source Code Review Lab.
The US government has accused China of abusing CNITSEC's access to Windows to develop zero-day exploits for offensive use, so if that's true there's an ulterior motive there as well.
That's over and above the article's claim that the Chinese government wants to reduce the number of American tech firms' products in official Chinese government use.
Re: China Said to Exclude Apple From Procurement List
#3I wonder if this isn't also an attempt to force Apple to give China access to the iOS and OS X source code. Similar tactics were used in the past to force Microsoft to give the Chinese government access to Windows source code through the China Information Technology Security Certification Center (CNITSEC) Source Code Review Lab. The US government has accused China of abusing CNITSEC's access to Windows to develop zer…
Not very familiar with OS programming, but what's stopping them from accessing the source code right now?
Re: China Said to Exclude Apple From Procurement List
#4A country the size of China with the technical expertise available to them can create an open stack that they can manage and control. They already have several hardware manufacturers in their territory to make any hardware they may need. I honestly don't see why they would ever have been buying Apple and Microsoft products in the first place, and I'm an American.
Re: China Said to Exclude Apple From Procurement List
#5I wonder if this isn't also an attempt to force Apple to give China access to the iOS and OS X source code. Similar tactics were used in the past to force Microsoft to give the Chinese government access to Windows source code through the China Information Technology Security Certification Center (CNITSEC) Source Code Review Lab. The US government has accused China of abusing CNITSEC's access to Windows to develop zer…
Not very familiar with OS programming, but what's stopping them from accessing the source code right now?
Large parts of OSX userspace (Frameworks, daemons and pretty much all the system applications) and some of the kernel are closed source. Almost all of iOS is closed.
Re: China Said to Exclude Apple From Procurement List
#6Not too surprising. I'd expect the fallout and economic impact of mass surveillance to unfold over several years, with a gradual move away from US-based technology companies, including SaaS & PaaS, in favour of open source software and self-hosted solutions.
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#7Can anyone chime in and help the rest of us understand the relationship between business and government in China?
I can't help but think this is more of a move to help China's internal industries, but it's hard to say without understanding the political climate.
Re: China Said to Exclude Apple From Procurement List
#8I wonder if this isn't also an attempt to force Apple to give China access to the iOS and OS X source code. Similar tactics were used in the past to force Microsoft to give the Chinese government access to Windows source code through the China Information Technology Security Certification Center (CNITSEC) Source Code Review Lab. The US government has accused China of abusing CNITSEC's access to Windows to develop zer…
Not very familiar with OS programming, but what's stopping them from accessing the source code right now?
The iOS/OSX source code is proprietary to Apple. You wouldn't be able to see it unless you worked at Apple and had proper access.
Re: China Said to Exclude Apple From Procurement List
#9I wonder if this isn't also an attempt to force Apple to give China access to the iOS and OS X source code. Similar tactics were used in the past to force Microsoft to give the Chinese government access to Windows source code through the China Information Technology Security Certification Center (CNITSEC) Source Code Review Lab. The US government has accused China of abusing CNITSEC's access to Windows to develop zer…
Not very familiar with OS programming, but what's stopping them from accessing the source code right now?
It's the difference between open source and closed source. Closed source programs, like osx and windows only release their compiled versions.
Re: China Said to Exclude Apple From Procurement List
#10I wonder if this isn't also an attempt to force Apple to give China access to the iOS and OS X source code. Similar tactics were used in the past to force Microsoft to give the Chinese government access to Windows source code through the China Information Technology Security Certification Center (CNITSEC) Source Code Review Lab. The US government has accused China of abusing CNITSEC's access to Windows to develop zer…
Not very familiar with OS programming, but what's stopping them from accessing the source code right now?
Because like any program it is already compiled and they only have the executable to run. In its current state it is a bunch of machine code. They would have to reverse engineer it which is basically impossible across an entire operating system.