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Re: Navdy: HUD for your car

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Post by jewel »

kaoD wrote: post #17
100k wrote: post #2

HUD navigation could be cool, but anything that takes attention from driving like showing text messages is a terrible idea and should be banned. Distracted driving is incredibly dangerous. Even hands free phone calls are distracting. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mobile_phones_and_driving_safet...

Well, if hand free phone calls are distracting because you're holding a conversation, we should ban talking to your passengers on a car too, right? Even driving with passengers should be banned just in case, and all vehicles be single-seaters or have soundproof glass between the driver and passengers. Music is pretty distracting to some people. Car stereos should definitely be banned too. To be fair, both having a co…

In my opinion passengers are far better than phone calls because the passenger has contextual awareness of what's happening while you're driving. He or she will pause a sentence while you're trying to merge onto the freeway, for example.

Re: Navdy: HUD for your car

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Post by lukifer »

vnchr wrote: post #6
dchuk wrote: post #3

I'm not sure that showing off how your new product can make texting while driving easier is the best idea. The whole hands free debate isn't about literally keeping your hands free of objects, it's the psychological distraction of texting/talking/browsing that causes the safety issues. If it were just about keeping your hands free to stay on the steering wheel, people with one arm wouldn't be allowed to drive.

If that were absolutely true, eating while driving would be debated as heavily or more.

Not to mention conversing with passengers.

Re: Navdy: HUD for your car

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Post by kaoD »

senorprogrammer wrote: post #19
kaoD wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well, if hand free phone calls are distracting because you're holding a conversation, we should ban talking to your passengers on a car too, right? Even driving with passengers should be banned just in case, and all vehicles be single-seaters or have soundproof glass between the driver and passengers. Music is pretty distracting to some people. Car stereos should definitely be banned too. To be fair, both having a co…

This argument fails repeated testing. It turns out that human-human conversation involves both parties paying attention to the environment and co-operating to insert pauses and situational awareness. In essence, h-h communication in a car requires much less cognitive load on the driver because a large part of it becomes shared. We've all seen this fail at times too. That's when the driver has to tell the passenger to…

In fact it's addressed right below the linked section, but it contradicts your stance.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mobile_phones_and_driving_safet...

Quoting:

> In contrast, the University of Illinois meta-analysis concluded that passenger conversations were just as costly to driving performance as cell phone ones.

> AAA ranks passengers as the third most reported cause of distraction-related accidents at 11 percent, compared to 1.5 percent for cellular telephones.

> A simulation study funded by the American Transportation Research Board concluded that driving events that require urgent responses may be influenced by in-vehicle conversations, and that there is little practical evidence that passengers adjusted their conversations to changes in the traffic.

Re: Navdy: HUD for your car

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Post by [deleted] »

jewel wrote: post #21
kaoD wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well, if hand free phone calls are distracting because you're holding a conversation, we should ban talking to your passengers on a car too, right? Even driving with passengers should be banned just in case, and all vehicles be single-seaters or have soundproof glass between the driver and passengers. Music is pretty distracting to some people. Car stereos should definitely be banned too. To be fair, both having a co…

In my opinion passengers are far better than phone calls because the passenger has contextual awareness of what's happening while you're driving. He or she will pause a sentence while you're trying to merge onto the freeway, for example.

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Re: Navdy: HUD for your car

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Post by whiterabbit »

kaoD wrote: post #17
100k wrote: post #2

HUD navigation could be cool, but anything that takes attention from driving like showing text messages is a terrible idea and should be banned. Distracted driving is incredibly dangerous. Even hands free phone calls are distracting. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mobile_phones_and_driving_safet...

Well, if hand free phone calls are distracting because you're holding a conversation, we should ban talking to your passengers on a car too, right? Even driving with passengers should be banned just in case, and all vehicles be single-seaters or have soundproof glass between the driver and passengers. Music is pretty distracting to some people. Car stereos should definitely be banned too. To be fair, both having a co…

From The Wikipedia entry on mobile phones and driving: "The NHTSA considers distracted driving to include some of the following as distractions: other occupants in the car, eating, drinking, smoking, adjusting radio, adjusting environmental control, reaching for object in car, and cell phone use."

When I was a kid and my dad was driving and had to make a left turn or perform some other maneuver that required his full attention, he'd ask everyone in the car to be quiet. This was a man that raced automobiles as a hobby and worked in professional racing at the highest levels his entire life.

Re: Navdy: HUD for your car

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Post by xutopia »

100k wrote: post #2

HUD navigation could be cool, but anything that takes attention from driving like showing text messages is a terrible idea and should be banned. Distracted driving is incredibly dangerous. Even hands free phone calls are distracting. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mobile_phones_and_driving_safet...

Are there any studies showing the same about radios? I remember reading articles suggesting as much.

Re: Navdy: HUD for your car

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Post by imajes »

jewel wrote: post #21
kaoD wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well, if hand free phone calls are distracting because you're holding a conversation, we should ban talking to your passengers on a car too, right? Even driving with passengers should be banned just in case, and all vehicles be single-seaters or have soundproof glass between the driver and passengers. Music is pretty distracting to some people. Car stereos should definitely be banned too. To be fair, both having a co…

In my opinion passengers are far better than phone calls because the passenger has contextual awareness of what's happening while you're driving. He or she will pause a sentence while you're trying to merge onto the freeway, for example.

You're assuming they a: notice and pay attention to the road, and b: they're familiar with how to drive, so know that is a trickier maneuver, and c: that they know how well you drive, so can contextualize a pause based on your ability.

nope, it doesn't happen in real life.

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