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Attacked By Thugs (2004)

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Re: Attacked By Thugs (2004)

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Are we now all supposed to google for whatever the heck "banlieue" or "la BAC" is supposed to mean? :D

Although ‘banlieue’ = ‘suburb’ literally, the analogous word in American media is ‘urban’. For the SV crowd, Paris = San Francisco, banlieue = Oakland.

>the analogous word in American media is ‘urban’

I would say the analogous word is "inner-city". "Urban" carries a limited range of socio-cultural connotations, unlike "banlieu" and "inner-city".

Re: Attacked By Thugs (2004)

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Some view it as a racial slur.

What... against whom? OK, I don't expect rationality from racists or anti racists (but then, in Sweden "anti racist" seems to be a code word for antisemite. No, sadly not joking.) But... I can't off the top of my head name a culture that has never used spears and javelins. Edit: First, spears is an universal farmer's weapon most everywhere. Second, thanks guard-of-terra: It is a shame -- considering all the English I…

Well, indo-europeans are known as civilization of peasants, I can see how we may exclude ourselves from spear chuckers.

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=spear+chucker

Re: Attacked By Thugs (2004)

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Krav Maga. First thing it teaches you is to stay away from areas where something like this is possible. The next thing they teach you is to run away. If you think you'll look like a coward, compare that feeling to having a knife in your arm. If none of that works out for you, they teach you how to defend yourself. Brutally. Even how to extricate your wrist or arm from a grab. Physical size and strength (yours and you…

I see this as a basic life skill While self-defense is a useful skill, there isn't a good way to practice actual street fighting except to actually do it. (Martial arts sparring is not the same thing.) And, in street fights, even if you're skilled, you can die. So it's best to avoid the context in which those skills are gained. The only sane option is to avoid street fights whenever possible. Give the lessons some ti…

4 on 1 is not a good place to be, indeed. It's preferable to being on the ground with multiple attackers, but that's another story. Search Youtube for "krav maga multiple attackers". It's not easy, but with some training it's not difficult either.

Another good point you make - sparring is nothing like the real thing. Totally agree. You can train for that too though, and there are a number of good techniques to prepare for it. Some good book on the subject include Facing Violence by Rory Miller, and On Kiling, by Lt. Col. Dave Grossman.

Re: Attacked By Thugs (2004)

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I got a surreal feeling when reading about the police reaction. When I lived in Stockholm a decade ago, I called in a few times. The worst case was in the subway, when a big black guy talked incoherently in bad Swedish and started to beat on the windows with a crowbar. I shrugged, walked to the next wagon and called the police. I gave up when I realised they weren't interested in hearing which subway line I was on an…

>> I shrugged, walked to the next wagon and called the police. I gave up when I realised they weren't interested in hearing which subway line I was on and what time, so they could meet up with it. Your other option is the police in the USA -

Your other option is: you press a button in a wagon, ask to call the cops to the wagon with problematic passenger, and on the next station cop patrol is already there on the platform waiting eagerly. And the issue pretty much dies right there. Come on, it's totally doable, isn't it?

P. S. I understand that usage of the word "wagon" makes native english speakers' heads explode.

Re: Attacked By Thugs (2004)

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That's not the police I know, and I've been living in Poland for 24 years now.

Also, and I've been living in Poland for my whole live (33 years now), must have met or read about tens of thousands of people by now, and have never encountered anyone named Elmer.

Presumably it was a nickname.

Re: Attacked By Thugs (2004)

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And here we have the distinction between reality and wishful thinking

Eh, not necessarily. I have an iOS 7 iPhone with a PIN and Find my iPhone; it has no resale value without my AppleID password, which is necessary to wipe the device. My credit card is a useless piece of plastic the moment I get to a phone and have it disabled. There is really no incentive to rob me on the street unless I'm carrying my laptop, but I'm pretty conservative about where/when I do that. We can certainly lo…

Don't worry, the thugs who rob you are so smart and tech-savvy that they already know how to unlock the iPhones and drain your card in minutes.

...Or, they have no fucking clue and will just take everything you have on you because they're mugging you :-)

Re: Attacked By Thugs (2004)

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I see this as a basic life skill While self-defense is a useful skill, there isn't a good way to practice actual street fighting except to actually do it. (Martial arts sparring is not the same thing.) And, in street fights, even if you're skilled, you can die. So it's best to avoid the context in which those skills are gained. The only sane option is to avoid street fights whenever possible. Give the lessons some ti…

4 on 1 is not a good place to be, indeed. It's preferable to being on the ground with multiple attackers, but that's another story. Search Youtube for "krav maga multiple attackers". It's not easy, but with some training it's not difficult either. Another good point you make - sparring is nothing like the real thing. Totally agree. You can train for that too though, and there are a number of good techniques to prepar…

> 4 on 1 is not a good place to be, indeed. It's preferable to being on the ground with multiple attackers, but that's another story. Search Youtube for "krav maga multiple attackers". It's not easy, but with some training it's not difficult either.

Dude, please don't say that. Maybe someone who has trained at least for ten years could handle a 4 vs 1 fight. Maybe. And never with 100% probability of winning.

If you are in such a situation, just run the fuck away, or give them what they want. And stop believing and spreading the fact that handling a 4 vs 1 fight is doable "with some training".

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I'm sorry but I was hoping they would find the thugs and just beat the hell out of them. I've lived in a real ghetto type of area in Spain where the track suit thugs robbing people were an everyday feature.

I live in Barcelona, and the police here intimidate me way more than any "thugs". The police are nasty, unaccountable state sponsored thugs.

I'm in Barcelona as well, and it's pretty safe, but I heard some bad rumors about the cops, even though I never had to deal with them.

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I see this as a basic life skill While self-defense is a useful skill, there isn't a good way to practice actual street fighting except to actually do it. (Martial arts sparring is not the same thing.) And, in street fights, even if you're skilled, you can die. So it's best to avoid the context in which those skills are gained. The only sane option is to avoid street fights whenever possible. Give the lessons some ti…

I've never even considered a decoy wallet, that's a good idea. I often think about how much of a hassle it would be to cancel all credit cards, get new IDs, and replace everything in my wallet.

Decoy wallet or a few bills in a separate pocket "guys, here's $20, it's all I have on me". Unless they're drunk or crazy, they'll take it. But they'll also want your phone these days.

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Yeah that's Sweden for you. Actually recently the cops have been told not to engage when a crime is occurring, and instead just to take notes. They don't want riots. A week ago a riot occurred in Rinkeby (islamic enclave) when a cop stopped a speeding car.

wow really? Strange that there has been no reporting of this "riot" from last week. Islamic enclave? are you actually being serious? there are people from many backgrounds there, yes a large portion seem to be Muslim but calling it an Islamic enclave is preposterous and just gives away your real motivation

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